Re: Who are the Greats?

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Re: Who are the Greats?

Taylor Kingston	11 Mar 2010 15:43
> On Mar 10, 5:47 pm, Taylor Kingston <taylor.kings...@comcast.net> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > I guess that's why we don't see Alexhine's name on this list. We don't? Offramp said he was including all the World Champions, and last I checked, Alekhine was a World Champion.

None	11 Mar 2010 15:32
On Mar 10, 5:47 pm, Taylor Kingston <taylor.kings...@comcast.net> wrote: > > Mason > > A highly debatable choice. Talented, no doubt, but undisciplined and > alcoholic. I guess that's why we don't see Alexhine's name on this list.

Taylor Kingston

10 Mar 2010 22:47

> Who are the 30 best chess players of all time?

> I would have the World Champions

Are you including only "classic champions," i.e. those who won the
title in match play, or also winners of those FIDE free-for-alls:
Khalifman, Ponomariov, Kasimdzhanov, Topalov?

> plus:
> Reshevsky

No argument there.

> Larsen
> Rubinstein
> Schlechter

A bit high for these three, perhaps.

> Short

A good candidate. Certainly top 50 at least.

> Chigorin
> Zuckertort

Again too high, IMO.

> Mason

A highly debatable choice. Talented, no doubt, but undisciplined and
alcoholic.

> Pillsbury
> Marshall

Can't agree, especially on Marshall. Certainly in the top 75 or 100,
but top 30?

> Junge

Eh? He didn't live long enough to accomplish much. He did co-win
(with Alekhine) one important tournament, Prague 1942, but died at age
21 in the closing weeks of WW II.

> Keres
> Kortschnoi

Strongly second the motion.

> Tarrasch
> and
> Bogoljuboff

Arguably not in the top 30, but I won't belabor it.

Some major omissions, IMO: Bronstein, Geller, Stein, Timman,
Polugaevsky, Boleslavsky, Portisch. Also perhaps Ivanchuk, Gelfand,
Hübner and Averbakh. Others perhaps not in the top 30 but still better
than many of the above: Fine, Kholmov, Gligoric, Taimanov, Kotov,
Yusupov, Ribli, Andersson, Vaganian, Hort, Najdorf, Nimzovich.

Oh, and where is Morphy?

Offramp	10 Mar 2010 21:48
Who are the 30 best chess players of all time? f.ck knows. I would have the World Champions plus: Reshevsky Larsen Rubinstein Schlechter Short Chigorin Zuckertort Mason Pillsbury Marshall Junge Keres Kortschnoi Tarrasch and Bogoljuboff

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