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Re: I am hereby suspending "Rob Mitchell" from posting to the FIDE_chess Yahoo Group
| Chess One | 23 Aug 2007 21:30 |
> Phil, > > Ike would have quashed him like a roach . > Even Harry "Too Tall" Sabine gave Ike a wide berth! The US Marine Corp with air support would have done same, no?
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>> My friend Stuart Rubin is not a member either, mostly because he's >> British - >> and just won the senior... and Kaarlo is Dutch, but living in HK, nan ja? > > I noticed that even Ray Keene had posted there in the past, but ducked > out after he noticed Mohamed El Sloan's lunacy. Not explicitly so - but I think there was nothing there to interest him. \
Ray Keene is not a big fan of politco's in chess. In fact he smuggled out Gulko's material from under the KGB's noses [which was an explicit charge against the regime, and which specific players and organisers acted against refuseniks, including beating up him and his wife - such as Averbakh, specifically, who spied on them]
Anyway, for our own Mohammed to quote Pravda is a bit rich! ----
>> Its one of those 'prove who you are' assumption of guilt things. But who >> is [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > SO I remain the only "forever banned" person ! Makes me feel like > Lenny Bruce in a way. You just nailed his duplicity. And this is the dork who was raised such fuss about standards the USCF forum, while not in anyone's opinion that I have read, being even the slightest bit fair himself.
People 'attack' him, according to his own rendition of things. He doesn't mention that it is his ideas and behavior that they attack, and this is why you are banned. ------
>> I first met Sam Sloan in New Windsor at a board meeting where I was >> introducing a Russian fella, and was myself introduced by a board member. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Earth women? There are lots of space visitors to Kansas, Nebraska and > Iowa so I have been told. Be careful what you say, earth man!
But there is also unfair attacks on Sloan - what is important is how he has prosecuted his case during the past 12 months, which seems to me along McCarthy lines of intimidation and 'suggestions' of 'questions.
pfft! Crap! He couldn't put his ego behind him and achieve anything. Someone ALWAYS had to be to blame, and he the hero, like a bad B movie, when the hero gets to protect the wimmin from the [dumb] injuns. Except Sam, who I suspect has vagina-envy, attacked the women, his own self.
Phil Innes
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| Rob | 23 Aug 2007 20:40 |
> > I was complying. I was simply not giving you an active USCF number as > > I am not an active member. USCF membership was never a condition of [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Thats just BS. Heck Sam you even have my phone number and I shared > > information and emails with you concerning televised chess projects. Phil,
Ike would have quashed him like a roach . Even Harry "Too Tall" Sabine gave Ike a wide berth!
> I believe our Sam has denied you ever sent him it. But this is a rare > correspondance!! - just think if he actually showed up. Ike would have [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > active USCF member does not make them a "fake" person. You have silly > > logic, Sam.
> My friend Stuart Rubin is not a member either, mostly because he's British - > and just won the senior... and Kaarlo is Dutch, but living in HK, nan ja? I noticed that even Ray Keene had posted there in the past, but ducked out after he noticed Mohamed El Sloan's lunacy.
> > Sam: > [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > Did you demand his USCF ID? He never got you censured , did he? He > > never pubically made a fool out of you with your own words, did he?
> You don't seriously expect Mohammed el Sloan to answer this, do you? Shoot! > He is so high up his mullah-tower he probably can't even hear you. I heard from the other party. He said he had been spammed by Sloan into the group... never even realized he had been banned, and when he read of his "banning" sent his information. LOL
> > Sam: > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > > Rob:
> > Pray tell who this stellar person may be? > > Gosh! Sam has let someone back in who wakes up another poster at 3 am. It may have been Mohamed el Sloan himself!
> > Sam: > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > arguments against his actions by way of me not being an active USCF > > menber. Even though his group is fide_chess! and not uscf_chess.
> Its one of those 'prove who you are' assumption of guilt things. But who is > asking, complainant, prosecutor, judge or jury? Or all 4? What can be fairer > than this :)))))))))) SO I remain the only "forever banned" person ! Makes me feel like Lenny Bruce in a way.
> > Sam: > [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > >> Poor Sam. Things must be pretty boring in your little room! > >> You lie and lie again and again. You are a joke.- Hide quoted text -
> Sam takes everything very personally, and if you think his ideas are nutz@ > that is the same to him as if you wrote that he is nutz@ Huge egos often come from small intellects.
> >> - Show quoted text - > > > Rob: > > > Now, as Paul Harvey says, "you have the rest of the story"
> But this is not the end of this paranoid post - which is truly funny! Maybe > the funniest since Brennan's efforts here: this is what he also wrote:- [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Innes is really named Phil Innes. Why is there no listing for him in > the Vermont telephone book or anywhere else?)" Oh my God! You are "unlisted"? Maybe only unlisted to Sloan. I hear the new blocking program makes you invisible to people who you want to leave you alone.
> I first met Sam Sloan in New Windsor at a board meeting where I was > introducing a Russian fella, and was myself introduced by a board member. I > even talked with el Sloan, supported one of his points about the cost of net > service, and use the same name now as then. But did you show him your passport? LOL How do we even know that he is who he says he is?He may be the spawn of alien experimentation on Earth women? There are lots of space visitors to Kansas, Nebraska and Iowa so I have been told.
> I 'attack' Sam Sloan every day means that I do not agree with him, or see > what issue he raises is to the public good. Of course, these days many > people 'attack' Sam Sloan, since he achieved what? as board member? One > motion carried which was to congratulate an organiser. LOL How sad is that!
> Whatever next? Having questioned who is this mysterious Paul Truong > character, will he now question Susan Polgar's identity? Maybe there is > really only one Polgar 'sister' and the cunning Truong represents them all > by ninja-photoshop arts learned in the mysterious orient?
> Or did Truong turn Mormon and marry all three? Now PT turning Mormon IS the story of a decade!
> > Rob (which mitch) Mitchell Respectfully, Rob (Which- Mitch) Earl of Mustard!
> Cordially, The Duke of Mexico, [Montezuma especially], and the Queen of the > May. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > - Show quoted text - |
| Chess One | 23 Aug 2007 19:56 |
> I was complying. I was simply not giving you an active USCF number as > I am not an active member. USCF membership was never a condition of [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Thats just BS. Heck Sam you even have my phone number and I shared > information and emails with you concerning televised chess projects. I believe our Sam has denied you ever sent him it. But this is a rare correspondance!! - just think if he actually showed up. Ike would have slaughtered him on the spot - almost certain impalement in the parking lot
:) I thought he was going to slaughter Bill Hall - he threw him off the closed set. Isn't it fortunate that Jackie [Ties] Chan never met Mohammed el Sloan!
> Sam: > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > active USCF member does not make them a "fake" person. You have silly > logic, Sam. My friend Stuart Rubin is not a member either, mostly because he's British - and just won the senior... and Kaarlo is Dutch, but living in HK, nan ja?
> Sam: > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > me that you were censured by the USCF executive borad because you > broke the law and opend the USCF up for huge legal liabilities. Well, there is that... though cloth-ears is on a mission, look...
> Sam: > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Did you demand his USCF ID? He never got you censured , did he? He > never pubically made a fool out of you with your own words, did he? You don't seriously expect Mohammed el Sloan to answer this, do you? Shoot! He is so high up his mullah-tower he probably can't even hear you.
> Sam: > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Pray tell who this stellar person may be? Gosh! Sam has let someone back in who wakes up another poster at 3 am.
> Sam: > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > arguments against his actions by way of me not being an active USCF > menber. Even though his group is fide_chess! and not uscf_chess. Its one of those 'prove who you are' assumption of guilt things. But who is asking, complainant, prosecutor, judge or jury? Or all 4? What can be fairer than this :))))))))))
> Sam: > [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >> Poor Sam. Things must be pretty boring in your little room! >> You lie and lie again and again. You are a joke.- Hide quoted text - Sam takes everything very personally, and if you think his ideas are nutz@ that is the same to him as if you wrote that he is nutz@
>> - Show quoted text - > > Rob: > > Now, as Paul Harvey says, "you have the rest of the story" But this is not the end of this paranoid post - which is truly funny! Maybe the funniest since Brennan's efforts here: this is what he also wrote:-
""Rob Mitchell" claims that I kicked him out of this group because he said negative things about me. However, that is not true. As proof of this, Phil Innes attacks me in this group every day and I have never suspended him. (By the way, I am beginning to wonder whether Phil Innes is really named Phil Innes. Why is there no listing for him in the Vermont telephone book or anywhere else?)"
I first met Sam Sloan in New Windsor at a board meeting where I was introducing a Russian fella, and was myself introduced by a board member. I even talked with el Sloan, supported one of his points about the cost of net service, and use the same name now as then.
I 'attack' Sam Sloan every day means that I do not agree with him, or see what issue he raises is to the public good. Of course, these days many people 'attack' Sam Sloan, since he achieved what? as board member? One motion carried which was to congratulate an organiser.
Whatever next? Having questioned who is this mysterious Paul Truong character, will he now question Susan Polgar's identity? Maybe there is really only one Polgar 'sister' and the cunning Truong represents them all by ninja-photoshop arts learned in the mysterious orient?
Or did Truong turn Mormon and marry all three?
> Rob (which mitch) Mitchell Cordially, The Duke of Mexico, [Montezuma especially], and the Queen of the May.
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| Rob | 23 Aug 2007 15:49 |
> > > > Poor Sam. Things must be pretty boring in your little room! > > > > You lie and lie again and again. You are a joke.- Hide quoted text - [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Dont you just love hoe Mohamed snipped the truth from his post. Sloan calling anyone crazy is the pot calling the kettle black. He is in denial of the truth, so he tells bigger lies to make them believable. LOL
here is what Sam is afraid for anyone to read:
On Aug 20, 11:02 pm, sl...@ishipress.com (Sam Sloan) wrote:
> > >I am hereby suspending Rob Mitchell from posting to the FIDE_chess > > >Yahoo Group. This group has only one rule which is that everybody who > > >posts to the group must reveal their real name. The publicly posted > > >rule states: "This group does not allow anonymous postings or postings > > >under fake names." Rob:
for the record, I was posting under the name "robmtchl" . That is hardly a fake name. Sloans legal name is not "Sam" . He should ban himself.!
Sam:
> > >It is obvious from his postings today that "Rob Mitchell" has no > > >intention of complying with this rule. Rob:
I was complying. I was simply not giving you an active USCF number as I am not an active member. USCF membership was never a condition of joining your group now or then.
Sam:
> > >I now believe that "Rob Mitchell" is a fake name. I believe that he > > >selected this name because Rob Mitchell is one of the most common > > >names with 36 USCF members having the name of either Rob or Robert > > >Mitchell. Rob:
Thats just BS. Heck Sam you even have my phone number and I shared information and emails with you concerning televised chess projects.
Sam:
> > >One factor that tipped me off that this is a fake name it the fact > > >that Rob Mitchell does not post to the USCF Forums although he posts > > >to every other active chess group. The USCF Forums is the one group > > >that requires that all members be USCF members. Therefore, the fact > > >that Rob Mitchell does not go there indicates that he is not a USCF > > >member. Rob:
I never said I was an active member. Just because someone is not an active USCF member does not make them a "fake" person. You have silly logic, Sam.
Sam:
> > >I know that he will say that I am suspending him because he has been > > >attacking me lately. This is absolutely not true. Many other posters > > >have attacked me every day and I have never suspended them. John > > >Fernandez used to attack me several times a day and people were > > >surprised when I never suspended him. Rob:
I do say that. There is no other logical reason except that I held you accountable for your actions and your comments. Also it was because of me that you were censured by the USCF executive borad because you broke the law and opend the USCF up for huge legal liabilities.
Sam:
> > >In the five years since the FIDE_chess Yahoo group was established on > > >January 14, 2002, I have only suspended two chess players. One was > > >Steve of Alabama, now Steve of Tennessee, whom I suspended because he > > >refused to reveal his last name. Later, when he told me that his name > > >was Steve Owens, I let him back in even though he attacked me every > > >day and continues to do so. Rob:
Did you demand his USCF ID? He never got you censured , did he? He never pubically made a fool out of you with your own words, did he?
Sam:
> > >The other person I suspended was known for obnoxious and objectionable > > >postings. There were a tremendous number of complaints about him and > > >at least one person had left the group because of him. (He was also > > >the same person who woke up Mike Nolan at 3:00 AM recently.)
> > >In that case, I allowed him to rejoin on a promise of good behavior > > >and he remains a member of the group to this day. Rob:
Pray tell who this stellar person may be?
Sam:
> > >So, the only two people I have ever suspended have since rejoined the > > >group and are posting there now. > > >"Rob Mitchell" too can be reinstated provided that he reveals his real > > >name and provides verifiable information establishing his identity. Rob:
Here is the "lie" Sam only wanted my USCF ID to either see what my playing stregnth was or to try to diminish the veracity of my arguments against his actions by way of me not being an active USCF menber. Even though his group is fide_chess! and not uscf_chess.
Sam:
> > >Sam Sloan > > This is to remind everyone of the real reason I suspended "Rob > > Mitchell" from posting to my FIDE_chess Yahoo Group, not to suppress > > dissent, but because "Rob Mitchell" persistently refused to follow the > > one rule of my group. Rob:
Now here comes the "real reason"
Sam:
>> Rob Mitchell has tried to show me in a bad light. I will not tolerate that in my group. > > Sam Sloan- Hide quoted text -
> > - Show quoted text - Rob:
> Poor Sam. Things must be pretty boring in your little room! > You lie and lie again and again. You are a joke.- Hide quoted text -
> - Show quoted text - Rob:
Now, as Paul Harvey says, "you have the rest of the story"
Rob (which mitch) Mitchell
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| Bruce | 22 Aug 2007 23:47 |
> > > Poor Sam. Things must be pretty boring in your little room! > > > You lie and lie again and again. You are a joke.- Hide quoted text - [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Sam Sloan Must be that effect you are having on him Sam. :)
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| samsloan | 22 Aug 2007 23:21 |
> > Poor Sam. Things must be pretty boring in your little room! > > You lie and lie again and again. You are a joke.- Hide quoted text - [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Rob (which mitch) Mitchell What is really funny is the way "Rob Mitchell" has gone completely nuts ever since I banned him from my group.
Sam Sloan
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| Rob | 22 Aug 2007 18:48 |
Sam , you are a paranoid fabricator.
> > >I am hereby suspending Rob Mitchell from posting to the FIDE_chess > > >Yahoo Group. This group has only one rule which is that everybody who > > >posts to the group must reveal their real name. The publicly posted > > >rule states: "This group does not allow anonymous postings or postings > > >under fake names." for the record, I was posting under the name "robmtchl" . That is hardly a fake name. Sloans legal name is not "Sam" . He should ban himself.!
> > >It is obvious from his postings today that "Rob Mitchell" has no > > >intention of complying with this rule. I was complying. I was simply not giving you an active USCF number as I am not an active member. USCF membership was never a condition of joining your group now or then.
> > >I now believe that "Rob Mitchell" is a fake name. I believe that he > > >selected this name because Rob Mitchell is one of the most common > > >names with 36 USCF members having the name of either Rob or Robert > > >Mitchell. Thats just BS. Heck Sam you even have my phone number and I shared information and emails with you concerning televised chess projects.
> > >One factor that tipped me off that this is a fake name it the fact > > >that Rob Mitchell does not post to the USCF Forums although he posts > > >to every other active chess group. The USCF Forums is the one group > > >that requires that all members be USCF members. Therefore, the fact > > >that Rob Mitchell does not go there indicates that he is not a USCF > > >member. I never said I was an active member. Just because someone is not an active USCF member does not make them a "fake" person. You have silly logic, Sam.
> > >I know that he will say that I am suspending him because he has been > > >attacking me lately. This is absolutely not true. Many other posters > > >have attacked me every day and I have never suspended them. John > > >Fernandez used to attack me several times a day and people were > > >surprised when I never suspended him. I do say that. There is no other logical reason except that I held you accountable for your actions and your comments. Also it was because of me that you were censured by the USCF executive borad because you broke the law and opend the USCF up for huge legal liabilities.
> > >In the five years since the FIDE-chess Yahoo group was established on > > >January 14, 2002, I have only suspended two chess players. One was > > >Steve of Alabama, now Steve of Tennessee, whom I suspended because he > > >refused to reveal his last name. Later, when he told me that his name > > >was Steve Owens, I let him back in even though he attacked me every > > >day and continues to do so. Did you demand his USCF ID? He never got you censured , did he? He never pubically made a fool out of you with your own words, did he?
> > >The other person I suspended was known for obnoxious and objectionable > > >postings. There were a tremendous number of complaints about him and [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > >In that case, I allowed him to rejoin on a promise of good behavior > > >and he remains a member of the group to this day. Pray tell who this stellar person may be?
> > >So, the only two people I have ever suspended have since rejoined the > > >group and are posting there now.
> > >"Rob Mitchell" too can be reinstated provided that he reveals his real > > >name and provides verifiable information establishing his identity. Here is the "lie" Sam only wanted my USCF ID to either see what my playing stregnth was or to try to diminish the veracity of my arguments against his actions by way of me not being an active USCF menber. Even though his group is fide_chess! and not uscf_chess.
> > >Sam Sloan
> > This is to remind everyone of the real reason I suspended "Rob > > Mitchell" from posting to my FIDE_chess Yahoo Group, not to suppress > > dissent, but because "Rob Mitchell" persistently refused to follow the > > one rule of my group. Now here comes the "real reason"
>> Rob Mitchell has tried to show me in a bad light. I will not tolerate that in my group. > > Sam Sloan- Hide quoted text - [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Now, as Paul Harvey says, "you have the rest of the story"
Rob (which mitch) Mitchell
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| Rob | 21 Aug 2007 13:30 |
> >I am hereby suspending Rob Mitchell from posting to the FIDE-chess > >Yahoo Group. This group has only one rule which is that everybody who [quoted text clipped - 54 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Poor Sam. Things must be pretty boring in your little room! You lie and lie again and again. You are a joke.
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| Sam Sloan | 21 Aug 2007 04:02 |
>I am hereby suspending Rob Mitchell from posting to the FIDE-chess >Yahoo Group. This group has only one rule which is that everybody who [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > >Sam Sloan This is to remind everyone of the real reason I suspended "Rob Mitchell" from posting to my FIDE-chess Yahoo Group, not to suppress dissent, but because "Rob Mitchell" persistently refused to follow the one rule of my group.
Sam Sloan
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| samsloan | 16 Apr 2007 22:17 |
I am hereby suspending Rob Mitchell from posting to the FIDE-chess Yahoo Group. This group has only one rule which is that everybody who posts to the group must reveal their real name. The publicly posted rule states: "This group does not allow anonymous postings or postings under fake names."
It is obvious from his postings today that "Rob Mitchell" has no intention of complying with this rule.
I now believe that "Rob Mitchell" is a fake name. I believe that he selected this name because Rob Mitchell is one of the most common names with 36 USCF members having the name of either Rob or Robert Mitchell.
One factor that tipped me off that this is a fake name it the fact that Rob Mitchell does not post to the USCF Forums although he posts to every other active chess group. The USCF Forums is the one group that requires that all members be USCF members. Therefore, the fact that Rob Mitchell does not go there indicates that he is not a USCF member.
I know that he will say that I am suspending him because he has been attacking me lately. This is absolutely not true. Many other posters have attacked me every day and I have never suspended them. John Fernandez used to attack me several times a day and people were surprised when I never suspended him.
In the five years since the FIDE-chess Yahoo group was established on January 14, 2002, I have only suspended two chess players. One was Steve of Alabama, now Steve of Tennessee, whom I suspended because he refused to reveal his last name. Later, when he told me that his name was Steve Owens, I let him back in even though he attacked me every day and continues to do so.
The other person I suspended was known for obnoxious and objectionable postings. There were a tremendous number of complaints about him and at least one person had left the group because of him. (He was also the same person who woke up Mike Nolan at 3:00 AM recently.)
In that case, I allowed him to rejoin on a promise of good behavior and he remains a member of the group to this day.
So, the only two people I have ever suspended have since rejoined the group and are posting there now.
"Rob Mitchell" too can be reinstated provided that he reveals his real name and provides verifiable information establishing his identity.
Sam Sloan
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