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Former chessplayer, now world champion athlete

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Chvsanchez - 29 Jul 2009 08:57 GMT
91-year-old Efraín Wachs have just won the gold medal in the cross
country race at the WMA Championships 2009.

70 years ago he had defeated Alekhine.

http://english.wma2009.org
http://www.lanacion.com.ar/nota.asp?nota_id=1156077
Detectorist - 29 Jul 2009 10:28 GMT
> 91-year-old Efraín Wachs have just won the gold medal in the cross
> country race at the WMA Championships 2009.
>
> 70 years ago he had defeated Alekhine.
>
> http://english.wma2009.orghttp://www.lanacion.com.ar/nota.asp?nota_id=1156077

I can't find any proof that he beat Alekhine in a game in 1938
Taylor Kingston - 29 Jul 2009 16:23 GMT
> 91-year-old Efraín Wachs have just won the gold medal in the cross
> country race at the WMA Championships 2009.
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> http://english.wma2009.org
> http://www.lanacion.com.ar/nota.asp?nota_id=1156077

 Christian, I don't see anyone named Wachs in the index of opponents
in the Skinner & Verhoeven collection, which to my knowledge is the
most complete collection of Alekhine games. When/where did this game
take place?
Chvsanchez - 30 Jul 2009 07:21 GMT
>I can't find any proof that he beat Alekhine in a game in 1938

The proof is Wachs himself. He states in several interviews (mainly
this: http://ar.geocities.com/ajedrezhistorico/Notas/Wachs.htm) how
he, being the champion of Casilda, played Alekhine along with ten
local players and the champion of San Nicolás, in 1938 in Rosario.

His game was the last of the simultaneous display, he held the strong
attack, put a pawn on the seventh rank, made a combination in the
endgame and promoted it. Alekhine got angry, knock the pieces over and
refused to sign the scoresheet. (The scoresheet get lost on a house
move.)

Taylor, the occasion should be somewhere in my hard disk, but this has
to wait until the week end.

> > 91-year-old Efraín Wachs have just won the gold medal in the cross
> > country race at the WMA Championships 2009.
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> most complete collection of Alekhine games. When/where did this game
> take place?
Taylor Kingston - 30 Jul 2009 15:12 GMT
> >I can't find any proof that he beat Alekhine in a game in 1938
>
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> Taylor, the occasion should be somewhere in my hard disk, but this has
> to wait until the week end.

 If Wachs is right, then we have not only an unknown Alekhine game,
but a whole lost simul exhibition. According to Skinner & Verhoeven,
Alekhine spent almost all of 1938 in Europe, but he did make a brief
trip to South America, for a tournament in Montevideo and some
exhibitions in Buenos Aires. They record details of only one simul, a
25-board event in Bunenos Aires on March 29, but mention others in
passing, the last on April 29. I doubt Alekhine would have stayed
inactive for a whole month, so presumably the simul with Wachs
occurred some time within that interval, but records of it have been
lost.
Chvsanchez - 31 Jul 2009 08:09 GMT
> > >I can't find any proof that he beat Alekhine in a game in 1938
>
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> occurred some time within that interval, but records of it have been
> lost.

OK, the correct facts of the display, according to the local
newspaper, are:

Rosario, Saturday 22 July 1939, 21.00-1.30

25 opponents (+20 =3 -2)
Taylor Kingston - 31 Jul 2009 14:34 GMT
> > > >I can't find any proof that he beat Alekhine in a game in 1938
>
[quoted text clipped - 29 lines]
>
> 25 opponents (+20 =3 -2)

 Alekhine spent almost all of 1939 in South America, but surviving
records are sketchy, say Skinner & Verhoeven. The Rosario simul is
apparently one of many they didn't have records for. Wachs' report of
AAA's nasty behavior fits with other reports around that time.
 Maybe you should pass this information on to S&H?
EZoto - 30 Jul 2009 00:56 GMT
>91-year-old Efraín Wachs have just won the gold medal in the cross
>country race at the WMA Championships 2009.
>
>70 years ago he had defeated Alekhine.

In a simul?

EZoto

>http://english.wma2009.org
>http://www.lanacion.com.ar/nota.asp?nota_id=1156077
Taylor Kingston - 30 Jul 2009 01:26 GMT
> On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 00:57:28 -0700 (PDT), Chvsanchez
>
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>
> In a simul?

 The Skinner & Verhoeven book identifies all of Alekhine's opponents,
whether in GM tournaments, simuls or whatever. It lists no one named
Wachs. That's why I'm wondering if Sánchez has knowledge of a hitherto
lost game.
jspinrad - 30 Jul 2009 02:42 GMT
On Jul 29, 7:26 pm, Taylor Kingston <taylor.kings...@comcast.net>
wrote:

> > On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 00:57:28 -0700 (PDT), Chvsanchez
>
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> Wachs. That's why I'm wondering if Sánchez has knowledge of a hitherto
> lost game.

I don't have the book, but usually they list only opponents with known
game scores. For example, I know names of people who are said to have
played Morphy, but are not usually listed as Morphy opponents, because
no game score was kept. My own father tells me that he played
Koltanowski, but he never kept the score, and it would be pretty hard
to verify that this ever occurred.

Jerry Spinrad
RayLopez99 - 30 Jul 2009 13:02 GMT
On Jul 29, 8:26 pm, Taylor Kingston <taylor.kings...@comcast.net>
wrote:
>   The Skinner & Verhoeven book identifies all of Alekhine's opponents,
> whether in GM tournaments, simuls or whatever. It lists no one named
> Wachs. That's why I'm wondering if Sánchez has knowledge of a hitherto
> lost game.

First, the S&V book has errata.

Second, Mr. Wachs may have changed his maiden name when he legally
married in San Francisco.  Recall your pederast comments TK and
connect the dots.

RL
Wlodzimierz Holsztynski (Wlod) - 31 Jul 2009 08:36 GMT
> Second, Mr. Wachs may have changed his
> maiden name when he legally
> married in San Francisco.

The golden San Francisco should offer you
its brown key to the city.

   Wlod
Offramp - 31 Jul 2009 09:32 GMT
> 91-year-old Efraín Wachs have just won the gold medal in the cross
> country race at the WMA Championships 2009.
>
> 70 years ago he had defeated Alekhine.
>
> http://english.wma2009.orghttp://www.lanacion.com.ar/nota.asp?nota_id=1156077

I visualise him being hoisted, Rocky-like, over the heads of the
crowd, yelling I'm the Champion of the world, I'm the Champion of the
world, I beat Alekhine and now I beat you motherf$@ckers!! and being
moshed over to a seat in the stands where his adoring and once-
estranged wife (98) and kid (72) sit, Fifi baby, he cries, I did it
all for you! I beat Alekhine because he gave you der bliks, and now I
beat these kalikes and now it's time for the airing of grievances!
RayLopez99 - 31 Jul 2009 14:37 GMT
> > 91-year-old Efraín Wachs have just won the gold medal in the cross
> > country race at the WMA Championships 2009.
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> all for you! I beat Alekhine because he gave you der bliks, and now I
> beat these kalikes and now it's time for the airing of grievances!

Sure.  We'll wait for that movie (not).  Searching for Efrain Wachs.

If it has a gay scene it might have a shot at an Oscar, otherwise
nothing but chess freaks will enjoy it.

RL

 
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