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Chess One - 23 Oct 2006 13:25 GMT
excuse me breaking in,

but currently playing is
polgar topalov,
alternate viewing is
sokalov mamedyarov

look like judit may gambit a g pawn at move 11 in an uncompromising
sicilian. who knows? maybe she can keep the black k in the middle, though
this might cost another pawn

the other game is more quiter and slower paced

unknown where games can be watched for free, i am looking at the service via
chessworld

phil innes
Chess One - 23 Oct 2006 14:18 GMT
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chess One" <innes8@verizon.net>
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess.misc
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 8:25 AM
Subject: live chess from holland

> excuse me breaking in,
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> sicilian. who knows? maybe she can keep the black k in the middle, though
> this might cost another pawn

She didn't do that, [which was not entirely sound, but still, this is fast
chess, but opened the f file instead of g, now sokolov with black is doing
the big think at move 15 ...

> the other game is more quiter and slower paced

Malmeyarov with black is threatening to capture the intiative in the other
game with f5. White is also thinking at move 15 ...

> unknown where games can be watched for free, i am looking at the service
> via chessworld
>
> phil innes
Chess One - 23 Oct 2006 15:00 GMT
>> but currently playing is
>> polgar topalov,
>> alternate viewing is
>> sokalov mamedyarov

Here is a very unusual formation by black to activate a counter attack:

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Be3 e6 7. g4 h6 8.
Bg2 g5 9. Qe2 Nbd7 10. O-O-O Ne5 11. h3 Nfd7 12. f4 gxf4 13. Bxf4 b5 14.
Rhf1 Bb7 15. Qf2 Rc8 16. Nce2 Bg7 17. Ng3 Rh7 18. Nh5 Bh8

The Black King is still at e8, and the king rook now at h7, while the
black-squared king bishop is 'actively posted' at h8 to observe the long
diagonal and White's castled position on the Q side.

Is this a TN sort of position? [actually it would have to be a TN sequence]

Phil
Taylor Kingston - 23 Oct 2006 15:20 GMT
> Here is a very unusual formation by black to activate a counter attack:
>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> Is this a TN sort of position? [actually it would have to be a TN sequence]

 For what it's worth, a position search on both ChessBase Megadatabase
2005 and Chess Assistant 5.0 finds nothing like it. The closest game is
Andruet-Danailov, France-Bulgaria Team Match, Burgas 1985 (0-1, 24).
However, that matched only up to move 9, then diverged with 10.h3 Ne5
11.0-0 Be7 instead of 10.0-0-0 as in this game. Of course, there are
many, many games not stored on these databases.
Chess One - 23 Oct 2006 15:23 GMT
>> Here is a very unusual formation by black to activate a counter attack:
>>
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> 11.0-0 Be7 instead of 10.0-0-0 as in this game. Of course, there are
> many, many games not stored on these databases.

More...17. Ng3 Rh7 18. Nh5 Bh8 19. Kb1 Nc5 20. Bg3 *

Its interested that the 'gallery' were suggesting Judit sac a knight with 20
Nf5, but more sober opinion says the move she played was better and no sac
was necessary, indeed after White plays Bh4 black seems to have big survival
headache, since although his pieces are well-placed he lacks momentum to
unleash his own counter.

PI
Chess One - 23 Oct 2006 15:39 GMT
>>> 1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Be3 e6 7. g4 h6
>>> 8.
>>> Bg2 g5 9. Qe2 Nbd7 10. O-O-O Ne5 11. h3 Nfd7 12. f4 gxf4 13. Bxf4 b5 14.
>>> Rhf1 Bb7 15. Qf2 Rc8 16. Nce2 Bg7 17. Ng3 Rh7 18. Nh5 Bh8

> More...17. Ng3 Rh7 18. Nh5 Bh8 19. Kb1 Nc5 20. Bg3 *

20... Nxe4 21. Bxe4 Bxe4 22. Bh4 Qc7 23. Bf6 Bg6 * 24. Bxh8 Rxh8 * 25. Nf6+
Kd8 *

wow!! what a hum-dinger

Game is Polgar v Topalov
Chess One - 23 Oct 2006 15:43 GMT
in the other game black has now got in f5, which is going to be critical

[Event "Essent chess tournament"]
[Site "?"]
[Date ""]
[Round "3"]
[White "Sokolov, Ivan"]
[Black "Mamedyarov, Shakhryar"]
[Result "*"]
[Board "a.g91igtp"]
[Input "DGT203"]
[Owner "Essent Chess Tournament 2006"]

1. d4 g6 2. e4 Bg7 3. Nf3 d6 4. c3 Nf6 5. Bd3 O-O 6. O-O Nbd7 7. Re1 e5 8.
Bg5 h6 9. Bh4 b6 10. a4 a6 11. Nbd2 Bb7 12. dxe5 dxe5 13. Nc4 Qe8 14. b4 Nh5
15. Ne3 Nf4 16. Bb1 Nf6 17. Nc4 Rd8 18. Qc1 g5 19. Bg3 Nxe4 20. Bxe4 Bxe4
21. Rxe4 Qc6 22. Qc2 f5 *

---------
Polgar Topalov is fascinating - if Judit runs out of initiative [not her
style] then Toppy now has the better attacking position [+1 pawn]. Phil
EJAY - 23 Oct 2006 16:18 GMT
Looks like a win to me for Polgar .
Chess One - 23 Oct 2006 16:33 GMT
> Looks like a win to me for Polgar .

I just calculated a mate with the a pawn, a2 a3. how can he stop his K being
squirted down there?
michael adams - 24 Oct 2006 17:41 GMT
> > Looks like a win to me for Polgar .
>
> I just calculated a mate with the a pawn, a2 a3. how can he stop his K being
> squirted down there?

Jeezus, what a disgusting expression "squirted". Judith is known for
'crushing' her opponents..
Larry Tapper - 24 Oct 2006 17:47 GMT
> > > Looks like a win to me for Polgar .
> >
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Jeezus, what a disgusting expression "squirted". Judith is known for
> 'crushing' her opponents..

Yes, in the old Chess Chow magazine she was quoted as saying she had
KROWRZHED  her opponent, or something of the sort.

Both games drawn today. Polgar found just enough counterplay to avoid
being ground down by Mamedyarov's bishop pair. In the rook endgame
Topalov-Sokolov, Topa made it interesting by allowing Sokolov to go
marauding on the queen side. I think that maybe a better try for
Sokolov was ...Rc7 rather than ...a5 --- we'll see what the expert
commentators say. I was also wondering about ...Ka5 (preventing Rb6)
rather than b3.

LT
Chess One - 24 Oct 2006 20:34 GMT
>> > Looks like a win to me for Polgar .
>>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Jeezus, what a disgusting expression "squirted".

Do you use toothepaste more than once a week, or are you a real man?

besides

currently playing is

[White "GM Bruzon, Lazaro(CUB)"]
[Black "GM Strikovic, Aleksa(SCG)"]
[Result "*"]
[WhiteElo "2648"]
[BlackElo "2535"]
[PlyCount "22"]
[EventDate "2006.??.??"]

1. e4 d6 2. d4 Nf6 3. Bd3 e5 4. d5 g6 5. c4 Bg7 6. Ne2 O-O 7. Nbc3 c6 8. O-O
cxd5 9. cxd5 a6 10. f3 Nbd7 11. Be3 Ne8 *

> Judith is known for
> 'crushing' her opponents..

Larry Tapper makes some interesting comments on the Top-Sok-alov game. I
think he might be right, though there are so many possibilities resulting
from his suggestions. Is it that players chose those positions to which they
are most comforatable? Or that which seem to cause most discomfor to the
other player? That is, rather than 'objectively' best move given enough time
to calcualte that and all its ramifications?

Its also the point that they have quite limited time to play out resultant
positions, and players of this calibre might not wish to gamble the result,
since they are not named Fischer, Tal, nor as outright pugilistic as
Nakamura!

Phil Innes
michael adams - 25 Oct 2006 01:59 GMT
> >> > Looks like a win to me for Polgar .
> >>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Do you use toothepaste more than once a week, or are you a real man?

--Jeezus, bleeding, begorrah jeezus - it's donner und blitzing out thar,
maybe I'll get frazzled but anyway you're dyslexic ain't you Phil? so I
needn't include you in the almost 97% Americano Eng. Lang. illiterates
but one really does 'squeeze' that toothpaste tube - Phil..
Chess One - 27 Oct 2006 13:13 GMT
They're off; moves so far

[Round "8"]

[White "Polgar, Judit"]
[Black "Mamedyarov, Shakhryar"]

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Nf6 5. O-O Be7 6. Re1 b5 7. Bb3 d6 8.
c3 O-O 9. h3 Nb8 10. d4 Nbd7 11. Nbd2 Bb7 12. Bc2 Re8 13. Nf1 Bf8 14. Ng3 g6
15. b3 d5 *

[White "Sokolov, Ivan"]
[Black "Topalov, Veselin"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. Nf3 c5 3. d5 g6 4. Nc3 Bg7 5. e4 d6 6. Bb5+ *
Chess One - 27 Oct 2006 13:54 GMT
> They're off; moves so far
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> c3 O-O 9. h3 Nb8 10. d4 Nbd7 11. Nbd2 Bb7 12. Bc2 Re8 13. Nf1 Bf8 14. Ng3
> g6 15. b3 d5 *

She has already sac' ed a piece

16. Bg5 h6 17. Bh4 g5 18. Nxg5 hxg5 19. Bxg5 exd4 20. e5 Rxe5 21. Rxe5 Nxe5
22. cxd4 Nc6 *

> [White "Sokolov, Ivan"]
> [Black "Topalov, Veselin"]
>
> 1. d4 Nf6 2. Nf3 c5 3. d5 g6 4. Nc3 Bg7 5. e4 d6 6. Bb5+ *

whereas this game is proceeds at a more leisurely pace

7. a4 Na6 8. O-O Nc7 9. Re1 Nxb5 10. axb5 O-O 11. Bf4 Nb6 *
Chess One - 27 Oct 2006 14:49 GMT
>> They're off; moves so far
>>
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> 16. Bg5 h6 17. Bh4 g5 18. Nxg5 hxg5 19. Bxg5 exd4 20. e5 Rxe5 21. Rxe5
> Nxe5 22. cxd4 Nc6 *

23. Nf5 Bc8 24. Rc1 Bxf5 25. Bxf5 Qd6 26. Bh4 Ne7 27. Bg3 Qb4 *

Polgar is still slugging it out and riding the initiative. 27... Qb4 is a
very odd looking move, leaving the open K side, yet Judit's bishop is
hanging on f5 - if black can consolidate then its all over - since the white
player is a piece down.

>> [White "Sokolov, Ivan"]
>> [Black "Topalov, Veselin"]
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> 7. a4 Na6 8. O-O Nc7 9. Re1 Nxb5 10. axb5 O-O 11. Bf4 Nb6 *

Sokky is burying Toppy is pawns

12. e5 Bf5 13. h3 h6 14. Qe2 g5 15. Bg3 Qd7 16. h4 *

as against Polgar in an earlier round it remains to be seen if Topalov's
solid defence is too slow and subject to assault
Chess One - 27 Oct 2006 15:22 GMT
>>> They're off; moves so far
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
> 23. Nf5 Bc8 24. Rc1 Bxf5 25. Bxf5 Qd6 26. Bh4 Ne7 27. Bg3 Qb4 *

and now a pawn sac with a3 - to allow Rc3     ??

28. Bb1 c6 29. Be5 Bg7 30. a3 *

> Polgar is still slugging it out and riding the initiative. 27... Qb4 is a
> very odd looking move, leaving the open K side, yet Judit's bishop is
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> as against Polgar in an earlier round it remains to be seen if Topalov's
> solid defence is too slow and subject to assault

and a slug fest on the k side follows after

16. h4 f6 17. e6 Qe8 18. Nh2 Bg6 19. f4 Bh5 20. Qd3 gxf4 21. Bxf4 Qg6 *

so the last move is an offer to trade queens, when the very advanced white
pawns may be difficult to hold
Chess One - 27 Oct 2006 15:38 GMT
>>>> [White "Polgar, Judit"]
>>>> [Black "Mamedyarov, Shakhryar"]
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> 28. Bb1 c6 29. Be5 Bg7 30. a3 *

And M took the a3 pawn, and J did move Rc3.

Now, this is a fascinating position, and its hard to judge if white can bust
through, or if a perpetual needs be forced by white since the black queen is
effectively now a non-combatant for a good number of moves and out of the
hot-zone around the black king.

The other huge consideration is the respective clock times, J has abt 15
mins and M has 60-some.

Phil
Chess One - 27 Oct 2006 15:55 GMT
>>>> [White "Polgar, Judit"]
>>>> [Black "Mamedyarov, Shakhryar"]
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>> 23. Nf5 Bc8 24. Rc1 Bxf5 25. Bxf5 Qd6 26. Bh4 Ne7 27. Bg3 Qb4 *
> 28. Bb1 c6 29. Be5 Bg7 30. a3 Qxa3 31. Rc3 Nd7 32. Rg3 Nxe5 33. dxe5 *

the last move coming very fast from Mamedyarov.

Moves to-date in the other game"

>>>> [White "Sokolov, Ivan"]
>>>> [Black "Topalov, Veselin"]
>>>> 1. d4 Nf6 2. Nf3 c5 3. d5 g6 4. Nc3 Bg7 5. e4 d6 6. Bb5+ *
>>> 7. a4 Na6 8. O-O Nc7 9. Re1 Nxb5 10. axb5 O-O 11. Bf4 Nb6 *
>> 12. e5 Bf5 13. h3 h6 14. Qe2 g5 15. Bg3 Qd7 16. h4 *
> 16. f6 17. e6 Qe8 18. Nh2 Bg6 19. f4 Bh5 20. Qd3 gxf4 21. Bxf4 Qg6 *

now white re-offers the Q exchange

22. Nf1 f5 23. Kh2 Qg4 24. Qg3 *
Chess One - 28 Oct 2006 12:48 GMT
Date "2006/10/28"]
[Round "9"]

[White "Topalov, Veselin"]
[Black "Polgar, Judit"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 Bb4 4. Qc2 O-O 5. a3 Bxc3+ 6. Qxc3 b6 7. Nf3 Bb7
8. e3 c5 9. Be2 cxd4 10. exd4 d5 11. b3 Nbd7 12. O-O dxc4 13. bxc4 Qc7 14.
a4 Rac8 15. Re1 Rfe8 16. Bb2 Ng4 17. g3 Ndf6 18. Nd2 *

black just played 18. h5 rather than the ultra-aggressive Nd5-f5 manoevre

[White "Mamedyarov, Shakhriyar"]
[Black "Sokolov, Ivan"]

1. d4 d5 2. c4 c6 3. e3 Bf5 4. Nc3 e6 5. Nf3 Nd7 6. Bd3 Bxd3 7. Qxd3 Ngf6 8.
O-O Be7 9. e4 O-O 10. cxd5 exd5 11. exd5 cxd5 12. Ne5 Bd6 13. Re1 Re8 *

Question: is 10 cxd5 another TN?

phil
Chess One - 28 Oct 2006 13:52 GMT
update

Topalov - Polgar

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 Bb4 4. Qc2 O-O 5. a3 Bxc3+ 6. Qxc3 b6 7. Nf3 Bb7
8. e3 c5 9. Be2 cxd4 10. exd4 d5 11. b3 Nbd7 12. O-O dxc4 13. bxc4 Qc7 14.
a4 Rac8 15. Re1 Rfe8 16. Bb2 Ng4 17. g3 Ndf6 18. Nd2 h5 19. h3 Nh6 20. Bf3
Red8 21. Re5 Nf5 22. Bxb7 Qxb7 23. d5 h4 * 24. g4 Ne7 *

> [White "Mamedyarov, Shakhriyar"]
> [Black "Sokolov, Ivan"]

1. d4 d5 2. c4 c6 3. e3 Bf5 4. Nc3 e6 5. Nf3 Nd7 6. Bd3 Bxd3 7. Qxd3 Ngf6 8.
O-O Be7 9. e4 O-O 10. cxd5 exd5 11. exd5 cxd5 12. Ne5 Bd6 13. Re1 Re8 14.
Bf4 Bb4 15. Re2 Qa5 16. Nd1 Nf8 17. Ne3 Ng6 18. Nxg6 hxg6 19. a3 Rac8 *

> phil
Chess One - 28 Oct 2006 14:34 GMT
> update
>
> Topalov - Polgar

another massively double edged position

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 Bb4 4. Qc2 O-O 5. a3 Bxc3+ 6. Qxc3 b6 7. Nf3 Bb7
8. e3 c5 9. Be2 cxd4 10. exd4 d5 11. b3 Nbd7 12. O-O dxc4 13. bxc4 Qc7 14.
a4 Rac8 15. Re1 Rfe8 16. Bb2 Ng4 17. g3 Ndf6 18. Nd2 h5 19. h3 Nh6 20. Bf3
Red8 21. Re5 Nf5 22. Bxb7 Qxb7 23. d5 h4 24. g4 Ne7 25. Ne4 Ne8 26. Re1 Nxd5
27. Qf3 Rxc4 28. Rg5 Qe7 29. Bxg7 Nxg7 30. Rxd5 Rxd5 31. Nf6+ Kf8 32. Nxd5
Qd6 33. Nf6

Polgar is up a pawn, but her king is under seige

>> [White "Mamedyarov, Shakhriyar"]
>> [Black "Sokolov, Ivan"]

this one is looking drawish now - though of course, much play is left in it

1. d4 d5 2. c4 c6 3. e3 Bf5 4. Nc3 e6 5. Nf3 Nd7 6. Bd3 Bxd3 7. Qxd3 Ngf6 8.
O-O Be7 9. e4 O-O 10. cxd5 exd5 11. exd5 cxd5 12. Ne5 Bd6 13. Re1 Re8 14.
Bf4 Bb4 15. Re2 Qa5 16. Nd1 Nf8 17. Ne3 Ng6 18. Nxg6 hxg6 19. a3 Rac8 20.
Be5 Nd7 21. Qb3 Qa6 22. Rc2 Rxc2 23. Nxc2 Bf8 24. Bg3 Qb6 25. Qc3 Nf6 26. f3
Re6 *

>> phil
Chess One - 28 Oct 2006 15:24 GMT
>> update
>>
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> Polgar is up a pawn, but her king is under seige

33. Ne8 34. Qa8 Qe7 35. g5 Rd4 36. Rc1 Rd8 37. Qf3 Rd5 38. Kf1 Nxf6 39. gxf6
Qd8 40. Rc4 Rf5 41. Qa3+ Kg8

The knights go off, but with this last move is Judit going to walk her King
around to clip the f6 pawn?

White has just played 42. Rg4+

and the black K to 42 ...h7 - it would seem that taking the h pawn loses the
f6 pawn, and black would remain a pawn ahead while relieving the pressure
around the King, white can also insert a check on d1 to activate her queen
and begin a counter-action

I suspect Topalov will complicate <raised eye-brows> rather than accept the
exchanges... <gulp>

>>> [White "Mamedyarov, Shakhriyar"]
>>> [Black "Sokolov, Ivan"]
>
> this one is looking drawish now - though of course, much play is left in
> it

1. d4 d5 2. c4 c6 3. e3 Bf5 4. Nc3 e6 5. Nf3 Nd7 6. Bd3 Bxd3 7. Qxd3 Ngf6 8.
O-O Be7 9. e4 O-O 10. cxd5 exd5 11. exd5 cxd5 12. Ne5 Bd6 13. Re1 Re8 14.
Bf4 Bb4 15. Re2 Qa5 16. Nd1 Nf8 17. Ne3 Ng6 18. Nxg6 hxg6 19. a3 Rac8 20.
Be5 Nd7 21. Qb3 Qa6 22. Rc2 Rxc2 23. Nxc2 Bf8 24. Bg3 Qb6 25. Qc3 Nf6 26. f3
Re6 27. Ne3 Rc6 28. Qd2 Qb3 29. Rc1 Rxc1+ 30. Qxc1 Qd3 31. Be5 Nd7 32. Qc3
Nxe5 33. dxe5 Qxc3 34. bxc3 Bc5 35. Kf2 d4 36. cxd4 Bxd4 37. f4 b5 38. Ke2
Bc5 39. Nc2 Kf8 40. Kd3 a5 41. Ke4 * >

now an endgame, white with 5 pawns and knight, and centralised King on e4
against Black's 5 pawns [2 doubled on k side] but with a Q side majority of
2:1 pawns and a bishop - the black King is at f8

maybe white now has the chances, though it is difficult to activate his
knight

>>> phil
Chess One - 28 Oct 2006 15:46 GMT
>>> Topalov - Polgar
>>
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
> I suspect Topalov will complicate <raised eye-brows> rather than accept
> the exchanges... <gulp>

43. Rxh4+ Kg6 44. Rg4+ Kxf6 45. Qc3+ Ke7 46. Rd4 *

Topalov ignores my idea! But Judit procedes to clip the f6 pawn with her
walk-about King. Now Topalov threatens to continue to engage the black king,
driving black's pieces [est Queen] to a defensive postion, where he likely
has a draw. Relieving the pressure by an exchange of rooks allows her a pawn
to be taken, but maybe she will go for that?

Yes! she has just played R-d5, but maybe intends a pawn rather than q
recapture? but i think after some white q checks he can force a perpetual -
unsure if she will capture with pawn on d5 than give up a pawn ... to escape
that

>>>> [White "Mamedyarov, Shakhriyar"]
>>>> [Black "Sokolov, Ivan"]
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> maybe white now has the chances, though it is difficult to activate his
> knight

Bg1 42. h3 Ke7 43. Kd5

>>>> phil
Chess One - 28 Oct 2006 15:52 GMT
>>>> Topalov - Polgar
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 37 lines]
> perpetual - unsure if she will capture with pawn on d5 than give up a pawn
> ... to escape that

Instead of any of this he has now played Rc4 Kd7
and Judit's sister just wrote in another forum:

"This kind of play from Topalov may help Judit win this game. He should have
taken the draw when he had a chance. This is the exact type of style that
caused him to lose the World Championship match to Kramnik."

and now 48. h4

>>>>> [White "Mamedyarov, Shakhriyar"]
>>>>> [Black "Sokolov, Ivan"]
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>
>>>>> phil
Chess One - 28 Oct 2006 16:52 GMT
> Instead of any of this he has now played Rc4 Kd7
> and Judit's sister just wrote in another forum:
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> and now 48. h4

And we was right!
Here is whole game score:-

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 Bb4 4. Qc2 O-O 5. a3 Bxc3+ 6. Qxc3 b6 7. Nf3 Bb7
8. e3 c5 9. Be2 cxd4 10. exd4 d5 11. b3 Nbd7 12. O-O dxc4 13. bxc4 Qc7 14.
a4 Rac8 15. Re1 Rfe8 16. Bb2 Ng4 17. g3 Ndf6 18. Nd2 h5 19. h3 Nh6 20. Bf3
Red8 21. Re5 Nf5 22. Bxb7 Qxb7 23. d5 h4 24. g4 Ne7 25. Ne4 Ne8 26. Re1 Nxd5
27. Qf3 Rxc4 28. Rg5 Qe7 29. Bxg7 Nxg7 30. Rxd5 Rxd5 31. Nf6+ Kf8 32. Nxd5
Qd6 33. Nf6 Ne8 34. Qa8 Qe7 35. g5 Rd4 36. Rc1 Rd8 37. Qf3 Rd5 38. Kf1 Nxf6
39. gxf6 Qd8 40. Rc4 Rf5 41. Qa3+ Kg8 42. Rg4+ Kh7 43. Rxh4+ Kg6 44. Rg4+
Kxf6 45. Qc3+ Ke7 46. Rd4 Rd5 47. Rc4 Kd7 48. h4 Qb8 49. Qf6 Rf5 50. Rd4+
Kc6 51. Rc4+ Kb7 52. Qe7+ Ka6 53. Rc7 Qa8 54. Kg1 Rf4 55. f3 Rxf3 56. Qg5 f5
0-1

>>>>>> [White "Mamedyarov, Shakhriyar"]
>>>>>> [Black "Sokolov, Ivan"]

And for a change, right twice in a row - The White King position clinched
the middle game, here is whole game score

1. d4 d5 2. c4 c6 3. e3 Bf5 4. Nc3 e6 5. Nf3 Nd7 6. Bd3 Bxd3 7. Qxd3 Ngf6 8.
O-O Be7 9. e4 O-O 10. cxd5 exd5 11. exd5 cxd5 12. Ne5 Bd6 13. Re1 Re8 14.
Bf4 Bb4 15. Re2 Qa5 16. Nd1 Nf8 17. Ne3 Ng6 18. Nxg6 hxg6 19. a3 Rac8 20.
Be5 Nd7 21. Qb3 Qa6 22. Rc2 Rxc2 23. Nxc2 Bf8 24. Bg3 Qb6 25. Qc3 Nf6 26. f3
Re6 27. Ne3 Rc6 28. Qd2 Qb3 29. Rc1 Rxc1+ 30. Qxc1 Qd3 31. Be5 Nd7 32. Qc3
Nxe5 33. dxe5 Qxc3 34. bxc3 Bc5 35. Kf2 d4 36. cxd4 Bxd4 37. f4 b5 38. Ke2
Bc5 39. Nc2 Kf8 40. Kd3 a5 41. Ke4 Bg1 42. h3 Ke7 43. Kd5 Kd7 44. g4 Bf2 45.
Nd4 Bxd4 46. Kxd4 Kc6 47. h4 b4 48. axb4 axb4 49. Kc4 b3 50. Kxb3 Kd5 51. g5
Ke6 52. Kc4 Ke7 53. Kb5 f6 54. gxf6+ gxf6 55. Kc5 Ke6 56. Kd4 Kd7 57. Kd5
Ke7 58. e6 Kd8 59. Kd6 Ke8 60. e7 1-0

Phil Innes
Chess One - 23 Oct 2006 16:44 GMT
> Looks like a win to me for Polgar .

something strange just happened, he played 32 Rf4, and she Qe7 +, but then
the position reverted, and the white Q moved back to h4.

apparently Fritz thought 29. Nxc2 was a Polgar 'blunder', and K should have
gone to a1 directly. unclear if Fritz thinks this actual blunder or just
second best move

Fritz also thought 27. Bh7 was a blunder - it thinks Topolov should have
played 27. Bxc2+.

maybe black resigned or something at move 33?

okay, now the move is back

Qe7+ Kb6 34. Qb7+ Ka5 35. Qa7 *

maybe my a2-a3 will mate after all?

phil
Chess One - 23 Oct 2006 16:48 GMT
1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Be3 e6 7. g4 h6 8.
Bg2 g5 9. Qe2 Nbd7 10. O-O-O Ne5 11. h3 Nfd7 12. f4 gxf4 13. Bxf4 b5 14.
Rhf1 Bb7 15. Qf2 Rc8 16. Nce2 Bg7 17. Ng3 Rh7 18. Nh5 Bh8 19. Kb1 Nc5 20.
Bg3 Nxe4 21. Bxe4 Bxe4 22. Bh4 Qc7 23. Bf6 Bg6 24. Bxh8 Rxh8 25. Nf6+ Kd8
26. h4 Qc5 27. h5 Bh7 28. Qh4 Bxc2+ 29. Nxc2 Qxc2+ 30. Ka1 Rc4 31. Ne4+ Kc7
32. Nxd6 Rf4 33. Qe7+ Kb6 34. Qb7+ Ka5 35. Qa7 b4 36. Rfe1 Nf3 37. Rc1 Nxe1
38. Rxc2 Nxc2+ 39. Kb1 1-0

Wooooo! You go girl!

Phil
Taylor Kingston - 23 Oct 2006 16:53 GMT
> 1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Be3 e6 7. g4 h6 8.
> Bg2 g5 9. Qe2 Nbd7 10. O-O-O Ne5 11. h3 Nfd7 12. f4 gxf4 13. Bxf4 b5 14.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Wooooo! You go girl!

 It's interesting that the only game I could find with anything close
to this opening line by Black was one from Topalov's advisor, Danailov.
If Topalov adopted this at Danailov's urging, it would not be the only
time he got bad advice!
Chess One - 24 Oct 2006 13:39 GMT
two games currently showing are

[Event "Essent Chess Tournament"]
[Site "Hoogeveen"]
[Date "2006/10/24"]
[Round "5"]
[White "Topalov, Veselin"]
[Black "Sokolov, Ivan"]
[Result "*"]
[Board "a.g4k31i4"]
[Input "DGT203"]
[Owner "Essent Chess Tournament 2006"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 c6 3. Nf3 d5 4. Nc3 dxc4 5. a4 Bf5 6. e3 e6 7. Bxc4 Bb4 8.
O-O Nbd7 9. Qe2 Bg4 10. Rd1 Qa5 11. e4 Qh5 12. Rd3 e5 13. h3 Bxf3 14. Rxf3
exd4 *

where Sokolov has just clipped a pawn form Topalov :)

meanwhile Judit has better bishops for a time in

[Event "Essent Chess Tournament"]
[Site "Hoogeveen"]
[Date "2006/10/24"]
[Round "5"]
[White "Mamedyarov, Shakhryar"]
[Black "Polgar, Judit"]
[Result "*"]
[Board "a.g8ge093"]
[Input "DGT4570"]
[Owner "Essent Chess Tournament 2006"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nf3 b6 4. g3 Bb7 5. Bg2 Be7 6. Nc3 O-O 7. O-O Ne4 8.
Bd2 f5 9. Qc2 Bf6 10. Rad1 Nxc3 * 11. Bxc3 Be4

phil
Chess One - 24 Oct 2006 15:10 GMT
> two games currently showing are

Updates:

> where Sokolov has just clipped a pawn form Topalov :)

Round "5"]
[White "Topalov, Veselin"]
[Black "Sokolov, Ivan"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 c6 3. Nf3 d5 4. Nc3 dxc4 5. a4 Bf5 6. e3 e6 7. Bxc4 Bb4 8.
O-O Nbd7 9. Qe2 Bg4 10. Rd1 Qa5 11. e4 Qh5 12. Rd3 e5 13. h3 Bxf3 14. Rxf3
exd4 15. g4 Qc5 16. Na2 O-O 17. Rf5 Qe7 18. e5 d3 19. Bxd3 Nd5 20. Bg5 Qe6
21. Nxb4 Nxb4 22. Bc4 Nd5 23. Rd1 Rae8 24. Bxd5 cxd5 25. Qb5 Nxe5 26. Qxd5
Qxd5 27. Rxd5 f6 28. Be3 b6 29. g5 Kf7 30. gxf6 gxf6 31. Rd6 * Re6 *

but got it back in a materially level endgame, now Topalov has some
initiative against isolated black pawn at f6.

> meanwhile Judit has better bishops for a time in
[Round "5"]
[White "Mamedyarov, Shakhryar"]
[Black "Polgar, Judit"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nf3 b6 4. g3 Bb7 5. Bg2 Be7 6. Nc3 O-O 7. O-O Ne4 8.
Bd2 f5 9. Qc2 Bf6 10. Rad1 Nxc3 11. Bxc3 Be4 12. Qc1 d6 13. Bh3 Qe8 14. Ne1
Nd7 15. f3 Bb7 16. Nd3 Qh5 *

there followed

17. Nf4 Qh6 18. Bg2 *

where the white player appears to be regaining some control over the
position to level.

> phil
Chess One - 23 Oct 2006 16:18 GMT
rock and roll!

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Be3 e6 7. g4 h6 8.
Bg2 g5 9. Qe2 Nbd7 10. O-O-O Ne5 11. h3 Nfd7 12. f4 gxf4 13. Bxf4 b5 14.
Rhf1 Bb7 15. Qf2 Rc8 16. Nce2 Bg7 17. Ng3 Rh7 18. Nh5 Bh8 19. Kb1 Nc5 20.
Bg3 Nxe4 21. Bxe4 Bxe4 22. Bh4 Qc7 23. Bf6 Bg6 24. Bxh8 Rxh8 25. Nf6+ Kd8
26. h4 Qc5 27. h5 Bh7 28. Qh4 Bxc2+ 29. Nxc2 Qxc2+ 30. Ka1 *

So Toppy has got an extra piece, but how to extricate the King?

i wonder if he can play Nd3?
--------

here is other game, after liquidations, black is the exchange up and a pawn
down

[Event "Essent chess tournament"]
[Site "?"]
[Date ""]
[Round "3"]
[White "Sokolov, Ivan"]
[Black "Mamedyarov, Shakhryar"]
[Result "*"]
[Board "a.g91igtp"]
[Input "DGT203"]
[Owner "Essent Chess Tournament 2006"]

1. d4 g6 2. e4 Bg7 3. Nf3 d6 4. c3 Nf6 5. Bd3 O-O 6. O-O Nbd7 7. Re1 e5 8.
Bg5 h6 9. Bh4 b6 10. a4 a6 11. Nbd2 Bb7 12. dxe5 dxe5 13. Nc4 Qe8 14. b4 Nh5
15. Ne3 Nf4 16. Bb1 Nf6 17. Nc4 Rd8 18. Qc1 g5 19. Bg3 Nxe4 20. Bxe4 Bxe4
21. Rxe4 Qc6 22. Qc2 f5 23. Bxf4 fxe4 24. Nfxe5 Qe6 25. Bg3 b5 26. axb5 axb5
27. Qxe4 bxc4 28. Qxc4 Qxc4 29. Nxc4 Bxc3 30. Rc1 Rd4 31. Ne3 *
Chess One - 23 Oct 2006 16:30 GMT
> i wonder if he can play Nd3?

LOL - no! loses to Nd5 which mates, Toppy had to make luft, so advanced his
rook at 30,

[Event "Essent chess tournament"]
[Site "?"]
[Date ""]
[Round "3"]
[White "Polgar, Judit"]
[Black "Topalov, Veselin"]
[Result "*"]
[Board "a.g3u33yp"]
[Input "DGT4570"]
[Owner "Essent Chess Tournament 2006"]

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Be3 e6 7. g4 h6 8.
Bg2 g5 9. Qe2 Nbd7 10. O-O-O Ne5 11. h3 Nfd7 12. f4 gxf4 13. Bxf4 b5 14.
Rhf1 Bb7 15. Qf2 Rc8 16. Nce2 Bg7 17. Ng3 Rh7 18. Nh5 Bh8 19. Kb1 Nc5 20.
Bg3 Nxe4 21. Bxe4 Bxe4 22. Bh4 Qc7 23. Bf6 Bg6 24. Bxh8 Rxh8 25. Nf6+ Kd8
26. h4 Qc5 27. h5 Bh7 28. Qh4 Bxc2+ 29. Nxc2 Qxc2+ 30. Ka1 Rc4 31. Ne4+ Kc7
32. Nxd6 *

Can he save this?

> --------
>
> here is other game, after liquidations, black is the exchange up and a
> pawn down

and won a nice finish. big score with the black bits by Mamedyarov

[Event "Essent chess tournament"]
[Site "?"]
[Date ""]
[Round "3"]
[White "Sokolov, Ivan"]
[Black "Mamedyarov, Shakhryar"]
[Result "0-1"]
[Board "a.g91igtp"]
[Input "DGT203"]
[Owner "Essent Chess Tournament 2006"]

1. d4 g6 2. e4 Bg7 3. Nf3 d6 4. c3 Nf6 5. Bd3 O-O 6. O-O Nbd7 7. Re1 e5 8.
Bg5 h6 9. Bh4 b6 10. a4 a6 11. Nbd2 Bb7 12. dxe5 dxe5 13. Nc4 Qe8 14. b4 Nh5
15. Ne3 Nf4 16. Bb1 Nf6 17. Nc4 Rd8 18. Qc1 g5 19. Bg3 Nxe4 20. Bxe4 Bxe4
21. Rxe4 Qc6 22. Qc2 f5 23. Bxf4 fxe4 24. Nfxe5 Qe6 25. Bg3 b5 26. axb5 axb5
27. Qxe4 bxc4 28. Qxc4 Qxc4 29. Nxc4 Bxc3 30. Rc1 Rd4 31. Ne3 Bd2 32. Be5
Re4 0-1

 
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