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Scott - 23 Nov 2005 03:32 GMT
Hi
I'm looking for the chess book "My 60 Memorable Games" by Bobby
Fischer. Where I can I find this book? I couldn't find in most online
book stores and ebay.. :(

TIA!
Chess One - 23 Nov 2005 13:52 GMT
> Hi
> I'm looking for the chess book "My 60 Memorable Games" by Bobby
> Fischer. Where I can I find this book? I couldn't find in most online
> book stores and ebay.. :(

I checked Amazon and went into sticker shock! Cheapest used copy seems to be
$44. Keep looking in 2nd hand bookstores? Phil

> TIA!
zdrakec - 23 Nov 2005 14:40 GMT
I have a Russian-language edition...

Cheers,
zdrakec
David Richerby - 23 Nov 2005 14:56 GMT
>> I'm looking for the chess book "My 60 Memorable Games" by Bobby
>> Fischer. Where I can I find this book? I couldn't find in most online
>> book stores and ebay.. :(
>
> I checked Amazon and went into sticker shock! Cheapest used copy seems
> to be $44. Keep looking in 2nd hand bookstores?

Amazon.co.uk has a second-hand copy for 17.50UKP, which is about $30US,
but that's probably not much cheaper once you add shipping to the US.  
Also, I didn't check if this was the original edition or the later
Batsford algebraic edition with `corrected' annotation that is, I've
heard, the reason that Fischer won't let anyone reissue the book.

Dave.

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Taylor Kingston - 23 Nov 2005 15:18 GMT
> Also, I didn't check if this was the original edition or the later
> Batsford algebraic edition with `corrected' annotation that is, I've
> heard, the reason that Fischer won't let anyone reissue the book.

 IIRC, Fischer made that decision before the Batsford edition came
out, but Batsford's butchery gave him no reason to reconsider. For some
details, I refer interested readers to "Fischer's Fury" by Edward
Winter:

 http://www.chesshistory.com/winter/extra/fischer.html

 Readers wanting Fischer's original notes should get the 1969 version
from Simon & Schuster, though they will have to accept descriptive
notation.
Mike Murray - 23 Nov 2005 17:35 GMT
>  Readers wanting Fischer's original notes should get the 1969 version
>from Simon & Schuster, though they will have to accept descriptive
>notation.

"Accept"?  It's a feature. :-)
Ian Burton - 23 Nov 2005 18:47 GMT
>>  Readers wanting Fischer's original notes should get the 1969 version
>>from Simon & Schuster, though they will have to accept descriptive
>>notation.
>
> "Accept"?  It's a feature. :-)

"If you can't flaunt it, feature it."

Though I prefer descriptive -- no doubt because it's my native language --  
most players these days are not bilingual.

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David Richerby - 24 Nov 2005 09:37 GMT
> Though I prefer descriptive -- no doubt because it's my native language
> -- most players these days are not bilingual.

I realise they're different skills but I think it's fair to say that
anyone who's intelligent enough to play chess well enough to want to read
books in it is intelligent enough to work out descriptive notation.  It's
not rocket science, after all.

Dave.

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Chess One - 23 Nov 2005 18:10 GMT
>> Also, I didn't check if this was the original edition or the later
>> Batsford algebraic edition with `corrected' annotation that is, I've
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> details, I refer interested readers to "Fischer's Fury" by Edward
> Winter:

I have also been writing to Batsford recently, encouraging their publication
of a quality author - they seem to be a sleepy crowd.

On the subject of publishers, someone who definitely publishes quality chess
material voluntarily wrote to me that USCF don't seem to have conducted
serious book reviews for some 5 years now, and sorry to mention it, but HR
Enterprises won't carry ANY of their titles.

Its all very strange.

I owe Fischer a note about a filmed bio - I doubt whether we will be able to
afford his terms, but it seems respectable to try to negotiate them in any
case - so that he doesn't feel ripped off again. I have some sympathy with
his perspective.

The thing of it is, with Fischer, anything he carred to write that is new on
chess would become an immediate best seller, but he writes nothing since his
terms are too steep for what agents think the market can bear. Some of this
responsibility therefore rest on him to deal with prevalent market
conditions.

Cordially from the deep south where we only expect 5 inches of snow - you
make get twice as much, Phil Innes

>  http://www.chesshistory.com/winter/extra/fischer.html
>
>  Readers wanting Fischer's original notes should get the 1969 version
> from Simon & Schuster, though they will have to accept descriptive
> notation.
The Historian - 24 Nov 2005 00:03 GMT
> >> Also, I didn't check if this was the original edition or the later
> >> Batsford algebraic edition with `corrected' annotation that is, I've
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> I have also been writing to Batsford recently, encouraging their publication
> of a quality author - they seem to be a sleepy crowd.

We can only imagine how Batsford might respond if the author wrote to
them himself.

> On the subject of publishers, someone who definitely publishes quality chess
> material voluntarily wrote to me that USCF don't seem to have conducted
> serious book reviews for some 5 years now,

More like 15-20 years.

and sorry to mention it, but HR
> Enterprises won't carry ANY of their titles.

Since Mr. Innes fails to mention the name, it's probably another of his
lies.

> Its all very strange.
>
> I owe Fischer a note

Perhaps Mr. Innes will care to answer this question, since he is now in
contact with Mr. Fischer:

Bob Simpson to Philth Innes, May 2000:
"Fischer said the Holocaust never happened. Do you agree?"

Mr. Innes responded:
"My understanding of the KZs has absolutely nothing to do with Mr.
Fischer's, who, as I have said clearly above, is encouraged by
would-be-friends to make extravagant claims of a sensationalist nature.
What Mr. Robt. J. Fischer really understands about the Showa is not
necessarily represented though such 'friends,' and here this Bob, how
do
you or I know his opinion otherwise?"

We await Mr. Innes' answer.

about a filmed bio - I doubt whether we will be able to
> afford his terms, but it seems respectable to try to negotiate them in any
> case - so that he doesn't feel ripped off again. I have some sympathy with
> his perspective.

Yes, it's obvious to all that you share his "perspective", all right.
Chess One - 24 Nov 2005 02:50 GMT
Hail Stalker! What cheer?

>> >> Also, I didn't check if this was the original edition or the later
>> >> Batsford algebraic edition with `corrected' annotation that is, I've
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> We can only imagine

*suppositional statement followed by abuse?

'We' [ROFL] Historian Neil  chooses only to imagine ;)

> how Batsford might respond if the author wrote to
> them himself.

I wonder what that sentence can mean in the English language? (I am in
receipt of the author's letter to the Editor of Batsford.)

>> On the subject of publishers, someone who definitely publishes quality
>> chess
>> material voluntarily wrote to me that USCF don't seem to have conducted
>> serious book reviews for some 5 years now,
>
> More like 15-20 years.

I am reporting what a publisher said to me specifically about the past 5.
Perhaps Neal is right to extend this to a broader period, and this would be
an addendum to my comment. The point however is that the head of a quality
publishing entity has said that USCF has no standards at all, and Chesscafe
won't sell their books.

> and sorry to mention it, but HR
>> Enterprises won't carry ANY of their titles.
>
> Since Mr. Innes fails to mention the name, it's probably another of his
> lies.

Since Mr. Innes is writing to Neal Brennen, who cares what he thinks? Or
rather, if he thinks? Thee are no positive indicators.

>> Its all very strange.
>>
>> I owe Fischer a note
>
> Perhaps Mr. Innes will care to answer this question, since he is now in
> contact with Mr. Fischer:

Perhaps Mr. Brennen will get it into his head that his opinions are so
widely known as to establish universal wonderment at where his talents
begin?

> Bob Simpson to Philth Innes, May 2000:
> "Fischer said the Holocaust never happened. Do you agree?"
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> We await Mr. Innes' answer.

What is the question I need to answer? My astalker saves all my posts, but
can't write himself. Patience please while he has a go at writing his
question out plain and square.

I know that Neal Brennen likes to beat on Jews. But he pretends to be
sympathetic. Is this some racial thing for him?>

> about a filmed bio - I doubt whether we will be able to
>> afford his terms, but it seems respectable to try to negotiate them in
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Yes, it's obvious to all that you share his "perspective", all right.

Mr. Brennen talks about what is obvious to all. Mr. Brennen is an American
chess historian of mean repute.

Phil Innes
The Historian - 24 Nov 2005 04:32 GMT
> Hail Stalker! What cheer?
>
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
> I wonder what that sentence can mean in the English language? (I am in
> receipt of the author's letter to the Editor of Batsford.)

Which is not what The Innes originally wrote.

> >> On the subject of publishers, someone who definitely publishes quality
> >> chess
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> an addendum to my comment. The point however is that the head of a quality
> publishing entity has said that USCF has no standards at all,

Which is a different matter from stating that USCF doesn't appear to
have "conducted" serious book reviews.

and Chesscafe
> won't sell their books.

Which could mean anything from the "quality publishing entity" having
lousy distribution to Innes' lying about the "quality". But of course
the name of this "entity" needs to be kept secret...

> > and sorry to mention it, but HR
> >> Enterprises won't carry ANY of their titles.
[quoted text clipped - 35 lines]
>
> I know that Neal Brennen likes to beat on Jews.

Where the Brattleboro Bedlam came up with that one I don't know. It
must be projection - all that defending of Wagner, Donne, Alekhine,
Spassky, Fischer, and Tomic must have made Innes delusional.

But he pretends to be
> sympathetic. Is this some racial thing for him?>

We repeat Bob Simpson's question from 2000:
"Fischer said the Holocaust never happened. Do you agree?"
We await Philth Innes' answer.

> > about a filmed bio - I doubt whether we will be able to
> >> afford his terms, but it seems respectable to try to negotiate them in
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> Phil Innes
Chess One - 24 Nov 2005 11:48 GMT
> We repeat Bob Simpson's question from 2000:
> "Fischer said the Holocaust never happened. Do you agree?"
> We await Philth Innes' answer.

Brennen's back. Full time idiotic off-topic posts, especially having to do
with non-Americans and Jews.

>> Phil Innes
The Historian - 24 Nov 2005 12:53 GMT
> > We repeat Bob Simpson's question from 2000:
> > "Fischer said the Holocaust never happened. Do you agree?"
> > We await Philth Innes' answer.
>
> Brennen's back. Full time idiotic off-topic posts, especially having to do
> with non-Americans and Jews.

Is Philth Innes calling himself a "non-American"? The question is
hardly off-topic for a thread about Fischer and Innes.
programbo5@aol.com - 24 Nov 2005 14:40 GMT
$44 sounds like a steal..I`ve seen it for outrageous amounts although
that was for the earlier hard covered printings..I sold my entire
collection of chess books on Ebay about 8 years ago and it included an
earlier edition cloth hard covered copy of this book with dust cover
which by itself turned out to be worth more than I got for all 40 books
combined!
LSD - 25 Nov 2005 01:10 GMT
> $44 sounds like a steal..I`ve seen it for outrageous amounts although
> that was for the earlier hard covered printings..I sold my entire
> collection of chess books on Ebay about 8 years ago and it included an
> earlier edition cloth hard covered copy of this book with dust cover
> which by itself turned out to be worth more than I got for all 40 books
> combined!

LOL.  As Homer J Simpson would say:  Doh!
Les Lawrence - 24 Nov 2005 00:55 GMT
I got a copy through InterLibrary Loan. The copy (Simon & Shuster) came from
the US Naval Academy. With it's code of conduct, it's probably the only
library that still has a copy that hasn't been stolen off the shelves.
Returned it and kept the xerox copy for myself.
David Richerby - 24 Nov 2005 15:32 GMT
> I got a copy through InterLibrary Loan. The copy (Simon & Shuster) came
> from the US Naval Academy. With it's code of conduct, it's probably the
> only library that still has a copy that hasn't been stolen off the
> shelves.  Returned it and kept the xerox copy for myself.

I was going to suggest that you hadn't signed up to any code of conduct
but then I realised that this wasn't really relevant as the threat in your
case was the threat of the dissatisfaction of the entire US Navy.

Dave.

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Alexander Wagner - 25 Nov 2005 20:26 GMT
Hi!

> I'm looking for the chess book "My 60 Memorable Games" by Bobby
> Fischer. Where I can I find this book? I couldn't find in most online
> book stores and ebay.. :(
>
> TIA!

If a german edition would do, it is available at Rattmanns
for a decent price. Some 30,- Euros in hardcover.

http://www.schachzentrale.de/irw_cat.57473132.product.52415446495336304450.html

You can also find Huebners comments on these games, if that
would be of interest. (Also in german.)

Owning Nimzovitchs book from the same series I can tell
that they are very well made, with quite some efford to get
a really nice book. (Typeset in LaTeX, well that speaks for
itself. ;)

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