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c1880s MILTARY CHESS - A N MYERS - Looking for Rules

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Gamesetal - 16 Nov 2005 17:25 GMT
Does anyone have a copy of the rules from this late 19th Century
'Chess' game by A N Myers - call MILTARY CHESS ? If you do would
appreciate a response. - TIA - John
Taylor Kingston - 16 Nov 2005 17:58 GMT
> Does anyone have a copy of the rules from this late 19th Century
> 'Chess' game by A N Myers - call MILTARY CHESS ? If you do would
> appreciate a response. - TIA - John

 Are you sure of the name of both the game and its designer?
Pritchard's "Encyclopedia of Chess Variants" has entries for four
different games called Military Chess, but none were designed by anyone
named Myers. The closest chronologically is from 1871, put out by Mead
& Co., the designer Charles Conder. The entry reads:
 "Inspired by the Franco-German war of 1870. Board 12x12 of which two
ranks formed a river crossed by a four-square bridge. Men 22 a side
(various soldiers and artillery pieces). Capture of the enemy's
standard or planting one's own in the enemy stronghold won the game."
 Of course, your game could be one unknown to Pritchard.
Gamesetal - 16 Nov 2005 18:42 GMT
Very much appreciate your reply - if I could spell Military it would
help  ;~)

Our set contain twelve a side - we have no board - but we do have the
box which gives us the manufacturer Myers - a well known game producer
of the late 19th to early 20th century

Pictures can be found at this link

http://www.gamesetal.net/Stock_Pages/GCB/gcb1059.htm

We are a commercial company but I didn't post this message to advertise
our wares - we are both games and chess enthusiasts and just wanted to
know more about this game.

I think we have the correct number of pieces as the box won't take any
more!

I was unaware of the <<Encyclopedia of Chess Variants>> so thats a bit
of knowledge I thank you for.

Regards - John
Taylor Kingston - 16 Nov 2005 20:53 GMT
> Our set contain twelve a side - we have no board - but we do have the
> box which gives us the manufacturer Myers - a well known game producer
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>
> http://www.gamesetal.net/Stock_Pages/GCB/gcb1059.htm

 Hmmm ... This really fits nothing in Pritchard's book. The closest
thing seems to be "Estralography" (1780), credited to one M. Helwig.
Pritchard says "Pieces represented infantry, cavalry, and artillery,"
which fits what your picture shows, but he adds "also transport etc.",
of which your photo shows nothing.
 Also your game says "for the chessboard" indicating it's played on a
normal 8x8 board, but all the versions of Military Chess described by
Pritchard have special boards, one where it can be any size from 49x33
up to 40x66 (2640 squares!).
 So, you may have come across something long lost. If you do ever find
out how this game was played, you might want to contact David B.
Pritchard, so that he can add it to a future edition of his
encyclopedia. You can probably contact him through one of his
publishers, such as B.T. Batsford or Games & Puzzles Publications, both
in the UK.
Gamesetal - 18 Nov 2005 10:34 GMT
All your points duly noted - if I come accross the rules I will make
sure they are passed on.

My thoughts of a few years ago were that maybe if was played a little
like draughts - the different pieces having different movement
possibilities - but - that doesn't signify Chess...

I will continue the search

Thanks for your interest - John
David Richerby - 18 Nov 2005 15:58 GMT
>> Does anyone have a copy of the rules from this late 19th Century
>> 'Chess' game by A N Myers - call MILTARY CHESS ? If you do would
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> different games called Military Chess, but none were designed by anyone
> named Myers.

chessvariants.com doesn't seem to have anything and Googling for anything
to do with `military chess' seems to give lots of information about games
of chess played between soldiers and nothing else. :-(

Dave.

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Gamesetal - 19 Nov 2005 11:19 GMT
Thanks for that - I had Googled and came up against that wall of non
related items that you did - now why doesn't a smart chap like you come
up with a better search engine and go down in history along with Bill,
Larry and Sergey?
I did not know of the chessvariants web page - so a new bookmark for
future use - appreciate that.

 
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