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M.Ashley's "Chess for Success" is racist?

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Chess Baltimore - 25 Aug 2005 04:34 GMT
I picked up a used copy of Maurice Ashley's 2005, Chess for Success by
Random House.

I was a little put off because it seems the editors made the decision
to always capitalize the term "Black" when refering to African
Americans, but when speaking of lighter skinned people of European
heritage, the editor chooses the term "white".

I find it a little strange. Either give the term "white" a capital "W"
or do both terms as lower case.

The book does make a good case for teaching chess to people, but after
reading such blatant racialism, I had to put it down until I get a
definitive explanation from the publsiher.

Any thoughts?
Ron - 25 Aug 2005 07:40 GMT
> I find it a little strange. Either give the term "white" a capital "W"
> or do both terms as lower case.
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>
> Any thoughts?

I think that you're either trolling or picking nits.

Whether or not such difference in capitalization is appropriate (and I
agree it probably isn't) to call such a thing "blatant racism" is
absurd.

There's plenty of blatant racism in our society. This isn't it.

-Ron
jamesrynd@aol.com - 25 Aug 2005 08:04 GMT
Never blame on a conspiracy what you can blame on incompetence.
Probably just a bad copyeditor. Now if you find the word "honky" in
there several times (with or without caps), you might have a case.
jamesrynd@aol.com - 25 Aug 2005 08:04 GMT
Never blame on a conspiracy what you can blame on incompetence.
Probably just a bad copyeditor. Now if you find the word "honky" in
there several times (with or without caps), you might have a case.
Chess Baltimore - 25 Aug 2005 22:48 GMT
"Racialism is a term used to describe racial policy, in what is
generally perceived to be a negative sense, as promoting stratification
and inequality between racial categories (in themselves, often
disputed)."
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racialism

Ok, from the posts I read, he is not a racist. The wordplay just smacks
of racialism. Maybe I am just paranoid.

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David Richerby - 25 Aug 2005 12:04 GMT
> The book does make a good case for teaching chess to people, but after
> reading such blatant racialism, I had to put it down until I get a
> definitive explanation from the publsiher.
>
> Any thoughts?

You're overreacting.  Given that skin colour is totally irrelevant to
chess, the real question is surely why the book feels that it's important
to tell you the colour of anyone's skin, not why they capitalize some
words and not others.

Dave.

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Chess One - 25 Aug 2005 20:00 GMT
>> The book does make a good case for teaching chess to people, but after
>> reading such blatant racialism, I had to put it down until I get a
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> to tell you the colour of anyone's skin, not why they capitalize some
> words and not others.

I've spoken with Maurice on the phone for a few hours recently - and the
gent is very far from rascist - in fact he reminds me of another player I
know who has black skin, and who teaches theology - plays chess too, not bad
2000-ish  - I was engaging him [5 years ago] on the subject of Jesse
Jackson's political chances and he asked why I was asking him
particularly? - I'm not black! he said, I'm a New Yorker!

Now, the thing of it is, if your struggle to make it encountered
colour-tension, you might well wish to mention the fact, and even be proud
of being the first black GM. It is rascist in a sense, but in this case,
positively so.

Rock on! Phil Innes

> Dave.
goma@my-deja.com - 28 Aug 2005 02:13 GMT
Since Jerry Bibuld isn't allowed near pointy objects, I'll have to
answer for him:

You're the racist you filthy white uhmerikkkan rant rant rant bullet to
the head in an apoplectic fit.
David Ames - 28 Aug 2005 09:23 GMT
> You're the racist you filthy white uhmerikkkan rant rant rant bullet to
> the head in an apoplectic fit.

The man asked a question.  You didn't like his frame of reference so
you got uppity about it.  I don't care if you're White or Black or
Yellow or Red -- you assigned an undue importance to your own point of
view -- you got uppity.

It's also possible that the Editor made a decision that the Copyeditor
should capitalize "Black."

And you can spout whatever filth you like without using your real name.
Big man!
Look to Maurice Ashley -- he uses his real name.  He wouldn't need your
support.

David Ames
goma@my-deja.com - 28 Aug 2005 21:48 GMT
You're a little slow, eh?

 
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