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samsloan - 26 Jul 2007 22:14 GMT
I agree with George for a change and I disagree with everybody else. I
believe that Susan Polgar could and indeed almost must be made
president of the USCF now, assuming that she wants the job.

The first reason that Polgar should be made president rather than
Goichberg is that Polgar is more beautiful than Goichberg.

I am not joking. Attractiveness and presentability are important
considerations in choosing a president. Even had I been elected I was
prepared to vote for Polgar for President and I discussed this with
other candidates.

Next, Goichberg has not been a good president. He rarely communicated
with the other board members. If you called him he would talk to you
but otherwise you rarely heard from him. In the one year that I was on
the board, there was only one telephone conference call and that was
because I and Don Schultz insisted on it.

Goichberg basically did what he felt like doing, almost never
consulting the other board members and never telling us what he was
doing.

Then, whenever things went wrong, he would blame me, Sam Sloan, for
whatever the problem was, when I had nothing to do with it. Goichberg
sent out more than 16,000 postcards attacking me, which is one reason
why I did so badly in the election.

I do not think that the new incoming board members will want a
president like that and therefore I do not see any of them voting to
give Goichberg another two years as president.

The real question is whether Susan Polgar wants the job and whether
she is capable of doing the job. Nobody seemed to believe me when I
wrote about this during the election campaign, but there are serious
doubts whether Susan Polgar is capable of reading and writing the
English Language. The other board members will soon find out that I
was right, that none of the campaign statements used in this election
were written by Polgar. All were written by Truong.

That brings up another problem: If Polgar is president, she is likely
to be controlled by Truong. Polgar will be just the front. However,
that could be OK. Historians believe that Woodrow Wilson was not the
real president of the United States. His wife was.

For Polgar to be effective as president she would have to do what
Beatriz Marinello during the two years that she was president. Beatriz
called the other board members on the telephone every day, solicited
their opinions and reached a consensus. As as result, whenever she
went forward with her various projects, she had a solid majority
behind her. Goichberg is just the opposite. He goes forward without
even telling the rest of the board. Then, when and if the rest of the
board finally finds out, it has become a fait accompli, too late to
stop.

In order to use the talents and abilities of Susan Polgar, she must be
made president, because she has no other talents and abilities, except
that she is a strong chess player.

A separate question is whether she has the competence and the
capabilities of doing the job of president. I do not know the answer
to that question and I do not believe that anybody does. All I say is:
Give her the chance by making her president. If she falls flat on her
face, we will all find out soon enough.

Sam Sloan
Rob - 26 Jul 2007 22:29 GMT
> The real question is whether Susan Polgar wants the job and whether
> she is capable of doing the job. Nobody seemed to believe me when I
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> was right, that none of the campaign statements used in this election
> were written by Polgar. All were written by Truong.

Here Sam you show how little you know! LOL

> That brings up another problem: If Polgar is president, she is likely
> to be controlled by Truong. Polgar will be just the front. However,
> that could be OK. Historians believe that Woodrow Wilson was not the
> real president of the United States. His wife was.

Susan would never be controlled by anyone, man or woman.

> For Polgar to be effective as president she would have to do what
> Beatriz Marinello during the two years that she was president. Beatriz
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> board finally finds out, it has become a fait accompli, too late to
> stop.

Now that you are off of the board something positive may actually
happen!

> In order to use the talents and abilities of Susan Polgar, she must be
> made president, because she has no other talents and abilities, except
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>
> Sam Sloan
samsloan - 27 Jul 2007 10:47 GMT
At 01:25 AM 7/27/2007 EDT, JerryHanken@aol.com wrote:
>So Sam supports Poltrong for Pres.! That should be the kiss of death!!
>Jerry  Hanken

I thought that Jerry Hanken had already given me the kiss of death.
Does this mean that I am back from the dead already, just one day
after losing the election?

I do not exactly support Trollgar For President. I believe that she
will ultimately fail. She will probably blow her top over some trivial
or minor slight and demand an apology which will not be forthcoming.

Nevertheless, it is hard to ignore the fact that a record 3004 USCF
members voted for her and they clearly want her to be president. This
mandate should not be ignored.

I can already hear the drums pounding and the rumblings in the
distance that Bill Goichberg is frantically manuvering to block Polgar
from becoming president. I do not believe that Jim Berry wants to be
president. On the other hand, Randy Bauer and Joel Channing want to be
president.

I believe that Goichberg will soon realize that there is no support
for giving him another two years as president. Why should anybody
support him when his record shows that he acts alone and does not
consult with the other board members?

So, Goichberg will offer Bauer and Channing a deal: He will make one
of them president by delivering the vote of his Lapdog Hough. It was a
similar kind of deal that nearly deprived Goichberg of the presidency
after the 2005 election.

I would advise Bauer and Channing to refuse the deal that Goichberg
will undoubtedly be offering. The voters will never forgive them if
they steal the presidency from Polgar. If they really want to be
president, they will have plenty of chances over the next two years,
if I am correct that the Polgar Presidency will blow up soon.

Sam Sloan
Rob - 27 Jul 2007 15:49 GMT
> At 01:25 AM 7/27/2007 EDT, JerryHan...@aol.com wrote:
>
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> Does this mean that I am back from the dead already, just one day
> after losing the election?

No. Just a zombie!

> I do not exactly support Trollgar For President. I believe that she
> will ultimately fail. She will probably blow her top over some trivial
> or minor slight and demand an apology which will not be forthcoming.

I am certain your gadfly whinings could tick anyone off.

> Nevertheless, it is hard to ignore the fact that a record 3004 USCF
> members voted for her and they clearly want her to be president. This
> mandate should not be ignored.

Wrong. Again you are wrong Goichburg got more in 2005. Can you read?

> I can already hear the drums pounding and the rumblings in the
> distance that Bill Goichberg is frantically manuvering to block Polgar
> from becoming president. I do not believe that Jim Berry wants to be
> president. On the other hand, Randy Bauer and Joel Channing want to be
> president.

Those arent drums.. It's your heart giving out.

> I believe that Goichberg will soon realize that there is no support
> for giving him another two years as president. Why should anybody
> support him when his record shows that he acts alone and does not
> consult with the other board members?

Just a difference of style. If the decisions are good ones then the
board will follow. If not, they whine.

> So, Goichberg will offer Bauer and Channing a deal: He will make one
> of them president by delivering the vote of his Lapdog Hough. It was a
> similar kind of deal that nearly deprived Goichberg of the presidency
> after the 2005 election.

LOL.. Boy.. that naive.

> I would advise Bauer and Channing to refuse the deal that Goichberg
> will undoubtedly be offering. The voters will never forgive them if
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>
> Sam Sloan

And I hope they change the rules forcing you to use your legal name. I
would hope that everyone would have to prove who they are in all USCF
functions and events.
samsloan - 27 Jul 2007 15:49 GMT
I think you will be making a huge mistake if you try to deny her the
presidency that she has earned. If you do that, she will just attack
you the same way she attacked me, Goodall, Lux, Goichberg and Schultz
during the election campaign, not to mention Lafferty, Bogner and
others. What good will that do, other than reduce the USCF to endless
fighting again?

Give it too her. She claims that she can bring in millions of dollars
in sponsorship money. Perhaps she really believes that she can do
this. I feel certain that she will not be successful, but that is not
the point. She has earned this, she has the right to it, she wants to
try and she thinks that she can succeed, so why not give her the
chance?

By the way, it seems that she has set her sights even higher. She
wants to be president of FIDE too!!!

Sam Sloan
samsloan - 27 Jul 2007 18:47 GMT
[quote="Brian Lafferty"]Sam, I can't help but think that this is
motivated more by a desire to see Ms. Polgar fail than consideration
of what is best for the USCF.  The risk to the organization if she
fails due to managerial inexperience could destroy the USCF given the
organizations fragile finances.  I'd rather see one of the four
incumbent board members take the presidency.[/quote]

You just don't get it, do you? Our current management had no
managerial experience. None what ever. Before he was hired our
executive director had never worked in a corporate office in his life.
He was a door-to-door salesman of Amway products and a temporary
substitute high school teacher.

He has proven time and again that he is utterly incompetent,
unqualified and unable to do the job.

Joel Channing has failed to accomplish anything of a positive nature.
He just calls meetings where nothing is done.

I agree that Polgar lacks experience. I even question her ability to
read and write English. However, none of the incumbent members of the
board are suitable either.

By the way, had Korenman been elected my opinion would have been
different. I have received some very negative information about Mr.
Korenman. Fortunately, he was not elected so I do not have to reveal
what I know.

Funny how George and I are now aligned with each other in favor of
Polgar, whereas Tanstaafl (Herbert Rodney Vaughn) and others who
campaigned for her are now against her.

Sam Sloan
samsloan - 27 Jul 2007 19:45 GMT
I just want to add that if you make Polgar president, you can remove
her at any time.

It takes a 2/3rds majority, or 5 votes out of the 7 member board, to
remove her from office.

Thus, you have little to lose. If she messes up or just cannot do the
job, just get 5 members of the board to agree, and she is gone.

The choice you have now is to select someone who might be bad (Polgar)
or someone who has proven himself to be bad (Goichberg).

Which choice is better?

Sam Sloan
help bot - 27 Jul 2007 20:34 GMT
> The first reason that Polgar should be made president rather than
> Goichberg is that Polgar is more beautiful than Goichberg.

 That sounds logical.  Heck, aside from being a waffler,
the number one reason John Kerry was not elected
President was because of his Frankenstein appearance.

> I am not joking. Attractiveness and presentability are important
> considerations in choosing a president. Even had I been elected I was
> prepared to vote for Polgar for President and I discussed this with
> other candidates.

 A wise move; I think it is self-evident that no one
would vote for Sam Sloan for president for reasons
of appearance or good looks.

> Next, Goichberg has not been a good president. He rarely communicated
> with the other board members. If you called him he would talk to you
> but otherwise you rarely heard from him. In the one year that I was on
> the board, there was only one telephone conference call and that was
> because I and Don Schultz insisted on it.

 This makes it sound like SS wants to micromanage
the USCF via the board of idiots, instead of appointing
the right person for the job and then letting him/her do
it.  Um, did I say idiots?  I meant directors, of course.

> Goichberg basically did what he felt like doing, almost never
> consulting the other board members and never telling us what he was
> doing.

 This sounds as though BG took his appointment as
evidence that his own judgment was trusted, that there
was no need for the board to micromanage him on
account of their sound judgment in selecting the right
person for the job in the first place.  A vote of confidence
for the board.

> Then, whenever things went wrong, he would blame me, Sam Sloan, for
> whatever the problem was, when I had nothing to do with it.

 That is grossly unfair.  Everyone knows that Sam Sloan
is largely irrelevant, and so he should be held accountable
for anything.

> Goichberg
> sent out more than 16,000 postcards attacking me, which is one reason
> why I did so badly in the election.

 The more things change, the more they stay the
same!  This sort of thing is exactly how these
elections were decided back when delegates did
the voting.

> I do not think that the new incoming board members will want a
> president like that and therefore I do not see any of them voting to
> give Goichberg another two years as president.

 Some of them may see things differently-- particularly
if they didn't happen to like Sam Sloan.

> The real question is whether Susan Polgar wants the job and whether
> she is capable of doing the job. Nobody seemed to believe me when I
> wrote about this during the election campaign, but there are serious
> doubts whether Susan Polgar is capable of reading and writing the
> English Language.

 Odd that this didn't come up before, when Mr. Sloan
was trumpeting the virtues of Ms. Polgar's Web sites
as, much like Ace Ventura, the best there is.

> The other board members will soon find out that I
> was right, that none of the campaign statements used in this election
> were written by Polgar. All were written by Truong.

 The frog prince?

> That brings up another problem: If Polgar is president, she is likely
> to be controlled by Truong. Polgar will be just the front. However,
> that could be OK. Historians believe that Woodrow Wilson was not the
> real president of the United States. His wife was.

 Interesting.  Mr. Sloan is now a spokesman for
historians, presumably taking over the job from its
former holder, Nick Bourbaki.

> In order to use the talents and abilities of Susan Polgar, she must be
> made president, because she has no other talents and abilities, except
> that she is a strong chess player.

 Not long ago, we were informed by Mr. Sloan that
of all the chess Web sites on the net, Ms. Polgar's
were by far the best in all the world.  Now it seems
she has no talents whatever, having suddenly lost
everything but her playing skill, and looks.

 -- help bot
samsloan - 27 Jul 2007 20:43 GMT
[quote="Harry Payne"]The argument against Jim Berry is weak as water,
He has been successful in business, and banking for more years than
Susan has been alive. He and His brother Frank, came up with over
$75,000.00 in a very short time(and not in scholarships) To pull the
US Championship, and The US Women's Championship out of the fire.
If a successful Business man and Banker, that can obtain money for two
Championships on short notice, excites great disappointment in
membership. Maybe there is no hope for the USCF. We have never been
able to varify Paul's business background, and Susan apparently has
little if any.[/quote]

Harry,

My assumption in starting this thread is that Jim Berry does not want
the job of USCF President.

Jim Berry will be, without doubt, the most highly qualified member of
the board. However, he has a real job and he is a busy man.

He is on the board of directors of Southwast Bankcorp, Inc., a $2.2
billion bank. NASDAQ: OKSB

http://www.snl.com/irweblinkx/od.aspx?iid=100577

If he wants the job he can probably get it. However, I am not even
sure that he was that anxious to be elected to the board. If he had
not been elected he would probably not have attended the delegates
meeting. Indeed, he has never been to one.

Right now the choice is between Goichberg, Polgar and Bauer, except
that Bauer claims that he does not want the job whereas I think that
he wants it. Which of those three would you favor?

Sam Sloan
samsloan - 29 Jul 2007 14:26 GMT
[quote="George"]It seems stupid to vote for anyone else when Susan is
already the one person with the greatest opportunity to get AF4C
sponsorship to return and get a million dollar donation from Eric
Moskow.  It seems bold faced irresponsible and selfish beyond belief
to throw that away right up front.  The membership directly benefits
from the prize fund from AF4C and will benefit from any donations from
Eric Moskow.  And we stand to benefit from all sponsors.[/quote]

Actually, this is my main point. The rumor has been bouncing around
for the last several months that Susan believes that Eric Moskow will
give her one million dollars to start a new scholastic chess
organization.

In the first place, Eric Moskow has the money. His parents used to own
the Fontainebleau Hotel in Miami. http://www.fontainebleau.com/

I know Eric Moskow, known him for years, spoke to him recently and I
have formulated an opinion as to the chances of him giving Susan one
million dollars. (This is not even to address the question of, if
Moskow gives Susan one million dollars, will she turn around and give
it to the USCF, or will she keep it herself.)

Now, George thinks that Susan will get some money out of AF4C. This
goes back to the claim made by Bill Goichberg that AF4C stopped giving
money to the US Championship because of Sam Sloan. However, my highly
reliable inside sources tell me that AF4C stopped sponsoring the US
Championship because of Bill Goichberg and for other reasons including
the Kreiman Scandal, the shortfall of $20,000 in the prize fund and
the female player rated 1672 that Bill Goichberg qualified for the US
Championship and for several other reasons none of which had anything
to do with Sam Sloan and all of which happened even before I got on
the board. Anyway, you will not have Sam Sloan to kick around any more
so Susan thinks that AF4C will give her some money.

It could be that she is right. Perhaps AF4C will give her some money.
Perhaps Eric Moskow will give her a million ucks. (You fill in the
missing letter.) Anyway, I say give her the presidency but watch her
closely and who knows maybe these people will give her all this money,
who knows. What can we really loose? I have my opinion. I also do not
see how she can make things much worse than it already is. Nobody
would be worse than Goichberg.

Sam Sloan

 
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