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Which Rybka?

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laocmo - 28 Jun 2009 17:22 GMT
I've been away from computer chess for a few years. Retired now and
going to treat myself to a new program. I'd like the newest and best
Rybka. But there seems to be a lot of confusing variations. With GUI,
without GUI, extra cost opening book, standard  book. 32 bit, 64 bit,
etc.etc. My computer is a 2005 vintage, HP Pavilion - dual core
processor,  with 3 gig of ram and a 200 gig hard drive.

I've got Fritz 8, Rebel 11, and CM 9000. What Rybka do I need to buy?
I just gotta let a new program destroy my ego worse than those old
programs already have?

Thanks
Larry
Eric Hallsworth - 29 Jun 2009 10:34 GMT
In article <b047f04d-2137-4aad-98be-5169c1055053@j19g2000vbp.googlegroup
s.com>, laocmo <loliver2@insight.rr.com> writes
>I've been away from computer chess for a few years. Retired now and
>going to treat myself to a new program. I'd like the newest and best
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>Thanks
>Larry

Your best in my view is to get Deep Rybka3, that will give you the full
benefit of the extra speed your dual core machine offers

You probably only have a 32-bit processor - like mine! - but 32-bit and
64-bit are both on the dvd anyway

As you already have Fritz8 which is a ChessBase program, buying the
ChessBase version should leave you feeling at home with the features -
there are graphics and feature improvements, but general usage is the
same. If you fancy a change of interface then the ChessAssistant version
has EXACTLY the same playing engine on it, it's just that it looks and
works a bit different

There is an opening book already on either dvd, but you can always buy
the Jeroen Noomens opening book dvd as an extra if you particularly want
to do some studying in very latest and sharp theory

Cheers - Eric
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Martin Brown - 29 Jun 2009 11:21 GMT
> In article <b047f04d-2137-4aad-98be-5169c1055053@j19g2000vbp.googlegroup
> s.com>, laocmo <loliver2@insight.rr.com> writes
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> Your best in my view is to get Deep Rybka3, that will give you the full
> benefit of the extra speed your dual core machine offers

I am not convinced that the nearly doube cost of the deep versions of
engines are worthwhile on two core machines. On a quad core I think it
is a clear win for a deep engine.

I suppose it depends on what you want to do, but most of the time on a
dual core I can live with waiting twice as long and paying half as much
(or having two different engines).

Regards,
Martin Brown
johnny_t - 05 Jul 2009 21:19 GMT
First download all the free engines from rybkachess.com.  These will
kick the butt of all the programs that you have.

Then you should make a decision on Aquarium from Convekta and the
Chessbase interface.   I have Fritz 11, so I went with Aquarium.  I can
always use the Rybka 3 I got with Convekta with the Fritz 11 interface.
 This is my main system, and I use Fritz 11 as a Kibitzer when I am
exploring.

I have also done some stuff with IDeA interface with Aquarium.  But I
mostly use Chessbase.

As to deep vs normal.   Rybka 3's main advantage is in the improved
positional scoring from Larry Kaufman (whose work on this gained him the
Grandmaster title by winning the Senior Championship.  He credits this
from the work he did on the scoring stuff for Rybka).  And improved
search.  These 2 things make Rybka 3 an apparent class better than
anything else.

If you want to treat yourself to deep, go for it.  It will last you a
long time.  I have normal.  I am cheap.  Not as cheap as Martin though,
I don't think. ;-)

Rybka 4 looks to be getting it's improvements largely from improved
depth from many multiples of computers and machines.  This is probably a
reasonable gain, but unless there are dramatic improvements in scoring
or search, for most people Rybka 4 will not be as important and
reasonable as the Rybka 3 they will have on their machine.  Though
someday, local equipment will improve that Rybka 4 will make sense.

> I've been away from computer chess for a few years. Retired now and
> going to treat myself to a new program. I'd like the newest and best
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> Thanks
> Larry

 
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